Change "routine" on frequent client visits?

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For those of you who have regulars that come weekly or biweekly, do you often change your massage "routine" to mix it up for them or do you find they like consistent treatments? I'm mostly speaking of relaxation massage, not injury-specific work.

Thanks!
 


I have a medical doctor that I do a relaxation massage for every week. (Although honestly, she's told me she's had less problems with her back since we've been working together, and that's been just over 5 years.)
It's sort of funny, but every once in awhile I get the "itch" to change it, but she likes it to be pretty much the same. LOL
I do every once in awhile get to add a new stroke or something... but the core of the massage has to be the same. *shrug* That being said though, she's always the one I try out new products (oils etc) on and she's the one who gets to "open" my new CDs. :lol:
She's the only weekly client I have... but I've noticed that in the past, clients do find a certain amount of "comfort" in knowing the "routine." But I'd rather offer them the chance to try something new... than to have them go to someone else, if they're getting bored! LOL
IMHO, the best person to ask is the client!
 


For regulars with relaxation work, I get the comment, "I like coming here because you always seem to do something different each time".

Now, I don't consiously do this, but I do try to listen to thier body and work on what needs more work, or intensify what may need some concentration. I have a general "way" I do relaxation work, but sometimes I start them face up, sometimes face down (I usually ask what they prefer). And, I'll usually get a feel by what they say that day and tell them which part I am going to be spending some extra time on for the session. "I think I am going to spend some extra time on your feet today -- maybe as much as ten minutes more. We'll see."

Does this help?
 


I don't have a set routine, for me no two clients or treatments are ever the same. The only thing that is generally specific to each treatment is that they start face down, and thats only because of the way I have the table setup.

When treating the client I follow my Hara (instint / intuition) as to the work that is required by the client. I have given treatments where afterwards I realise I complete forgot about some strokes I could have done, other times I will use a stroke I haven't used for a long time that I had completely forgotten about.

I feel each treatment is unique, and the strokes used and work done must also be unique to that session. Essentially, go with the flow and don't worry about missing something out or addinging something new.

Personally, as a client I really don't like having what i call a massage by numbers.

Mat xxx
 


Ummm... considering I have no routine, it's a pretty mixed bag. I'm with fozzyo, I go with the intuition. There are a couple things that I do fairly consistently with regulars and anyone else who's one the table (occipital releases fascinate me), but I would be in deep kim chi if a client came in asking for the same massage they had last time :oops: I get a lot of positive comments that my work isn't the same every time too Texas-gal.

Maire
 


I have a general "way" I do relaxation work, but sometimes I start them face up, sometimes face down (I usually ask what they prefer). And, I'll usually get a feel by what they say that day and tell them which part I am going to be spending some extra time on for the session. "I think I am going to spend some extra time on your feet today -- maybe as much as ten minutes more. We'll see."

Sounds similar to me. I just go with what I feel they need at that given appointment.
I like to ask if they are looking for all over coverage or if they want me to spend extra time on areas that I/they feel need it. I rarely ever do a "relaxation massage".
 


I like to ask if they are looking for all over coverage or if they want me to spend extra time on areas that I/they feel need it. I rarely ever do a "relaxation massage".

I'm just putting together a new page for my website that you guys may find interesting ... 6 Reasons for Massage. Its a great tool to use when someone just asks for "a relaxation massage" or doesn't really know what they want. I have the six reasons printed on a sheet, with a picture of a massage stroke next to each one. Before each treatment I ask the client to have a look at it and say which one fits with what they wish to feel at the end of the treatment. Each time there is always one definate answer and it really helps to understand what they want from the treatment.

They six reasons are:

Connect - Slow down, breath, feel the touch, become aware
Energise - Feel your body vibrate with new energy
Nourish - Drink in the luxury of exquisite touch
Release - Leg your muscles be soft and loose, stretch out, walk tall and be free
Detox / Renew - Be still, listen and replenish your spirit and energy
Transform - Allow the touch to help you become what you were born to be.

Mat xxx
 


When I was in school I did a lot of the same stuff in my relaxation massages. I think I felt insecure & stuck with what I was used to- and my school didn't have a good swedish program, so I wasn't too confident in my swedish massages. My deep tissue massages were a lot more interesting.

Now that I'm out of school I feel more freedom & a lot more confidence to really mix it up & experiment more. I've gotten a really good swedish massage & now know what my clients are expecting. I'm a lot more comfortable doing a relaxation massage.

The steps may be similar (start prone etc) but I mix up the strokes & enjoy it a lot more.
 


I do CARE charting, so I ask my clients what's going on for them today, even for relaxation clients. Usually *something* calls out for more attention, or they'll comment on something they really liked last time or an area they felt didn't get enough work.

Of course, there can be great value in a routine when used properly... at some point the routine goes away and you don't have to think. At that point, the risk is that you're up in your head or worse not even "in the room"... but the reward, if you can stay present, is getting to connect more deeply with the client each time, to evolve the relationship rather than your moves.

If you're doing a routine, and it seems to be "the same" every time, you're not paying enough attention.


ladybug, I'm with you. What's with schools who skimp on the Swedish?

I've found trading with other bodyworkers to be *invaluable*. When I first started practicing, I was worried because it didn't seem like I was "changing", my sessions weren't "different" than at school, and I wondered how I was ever supposed to improve without finding money for continuing ed.

Trading was my answer :-)


Mat, I love your six reasons! I may use them or something similar.
 


Yes I do ask about specific complaints etc. I guess my question was more geared towards whether you find clients want similar "routines/experience" or do people seem open to trying new things. I think its more about client expectation of their experience, like Maestra's physician-client example.

:wink:
 


I'm in a spa & trying to get my own clients on the side. The spa clients wouldn't know the difference if I did the same routine everytime, because they are mostly one time customers. It remains to be seen when I have my own clientele.

And so far everytime I've gotten a massage not only does it feel great & helps me physically but I learn something from it & the massages I give improve. I LOVE THAT!
 


*heh* I'm thinking the universe has a perverse sense of humor. Shortly after I posted "what routine?" on this thread, a regular client who I've been working with weekly for nearly a year comes in and says.... "The massage you gave me last week was the best ever, can you do that again?"

One day I will learn to be more careful about what I put out there. Sheesh. I rather doubt it was exactly the same, but I did recall that some sacral based rocking seemed to strike a cord with her and she was pleased when she left.

Maire
 


EgoMagickian said:
ladybug, I'm with you. What's with schools who skimp on the Swedish?

Mat, I love your six reasons! I may use them or something similar.

What's with schools only teaching Swedish...like mine...

I agree, Mat, love your work! mk
 


I recalled that there's been an article in one of the trade magazines on CARE charting and surprisingly have found a link to an article about it online!

http://www.massageandbodywork.com/Articles/AprilMay2003/CAREnotes.html

HTH T-G!

I suppose a link to the article could be kept with links regarding SOAP notes. *Shrug*
 
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    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA (Hungary), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule โšœ๏ธ bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  34. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (Singapore), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (Philippines) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLayra Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปgive you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 3 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body , young cute Sophia slime 30โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Gorgeous Busty Boobs Taiwan๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ Girl Angel working with Sexy Exotic Filipina๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญGirl Molly & Sweet Shy Pretty Girl Kitty๐Ÿ˜ป and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Kiki and Bella. They are both short, young, pretty, with lovely smiles and good massage.
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
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