160 is the NEW 200!

For three hundred - five hundred range, i expect more than gfe. I want a bowl of rice with three - four side dishes and some makgeolli
 
Not really.. As most girls will tell you, demand has noticeably been down. Some girls just refuse to lower prices.. Just because they don't lower their prices doesn't mean their demand is still high.
 
The top low volume girls will continue to command the prices they command, i.e. 300-500. The demand for such girls remain high in a bad economy.
 
..this may no longer be true. INDIE prices may head south from here, for this industry, before pricing starts to recover or ultimately flatten in 2012. Doesnt matter whether its massage or Q or FS. Now UG event prices almost match the mainstream prov boards. Quick rate pricing is being offered by most in NYC. Only the very best, aggressive and brightest will get to keep some of their margins. Agencies, formerly with their noses in the sky, will suffer.
 
it seems the k places are back at 200 now in manhattan. BUT everywhere seems to offer a $160 half hour rate.

i was talking with a girl from one of the korean places. she says its 160hh / 200hr but if you go at nighttime when its busy there, they'll push you out as soon as they can, even in 20-30min...and that they all pay the same price. so be aware, if you go at busy times, esp after work and night time, the extra buys you nothing. she seemed to think it was kind of funny too (i.e., chumps).

now the success i have had is when you call and talk to the phone mama during non-busy times. ask who is there then tell her the rate is still ($160, or $180) for the hour right? if she says no its $200...press her and say you got the reduced rate before and if she'll still honor it, or that you get it elsewhere but you'd like to give her place a try. she knows in the afternoon at least the girls will just be cooling their heels on the couch anyway, so i've had good success in having them bite. when you get there give the girl 160 and she will look and you and say 1/2 hr? to which you say no mama said i could get an hour for that. she will have to go out to confirm. be aware that as soon as you get off you're out so if you want to make use of that full hour...you best be up to the challenge. its not like she's gonna sit around with you bs'ing to fill out the time.

now all that being said...its a major pain to go through all that. i do it cause i like to give the girl a tip, and usually at least half if not all the savings comes out of the house's cut. since it is such a hassle, i'll usually just go elsewhere.

golem any pointers on where to find those $100 avg places would be appreciated

china run places you can find some gems. you can even get your korean fix at a lot of them will feature kgirls. but they usually dont last long because kgirls are used to nice clean places with nice surroundings...and the c-places, are often not. and they are usually on a 10-day rotation. and/or they dont like the 'country'-style customers they often get at c-places (migrant and menial labor workers). but rest assured they've seem them all at one point or another.
 
Yes I agree
160 is just right for these times and lets face it-only those who can WRITE it off as a company expense,entertainment expense-can get away with it.
Us working stiffs on the OTHER hand have to work to make ends meet and with a little extra we have-we can indulge. Theres even a lady in the M/S field charging $280 for an hour by the name of Jennada in backpage-is she kidding or what.I bet she has maybe 1 or 2 clients a week at that price-or maybe Im wrong-damn. Yet si far I have called maybe a dozen Asian place and the average is $200. then I hang up
 
1.6 should be the max spent for all languages spoken and all services provided for 1 hour. Lets face it a 5 client day at 1.6 is 8 bills. Thats more than 200k per year. I know there is a risk blaa blaa blaa. Where else can an uneducated and undocumented worker pull down that kinda scratch. The $$+ category had better offer something special in a great location.

This only my opinion.
as always YMMV

Glassguy
 
Where and for how much time? I have not seen any ads for Chinese mp
What am I missing?
 
Now it seems that the number of Chinese places is increasing beyond the Korean ones. It used to be the other way around. They don't believe in opening fancy establishments here, at least not yet, but I am getting all I want in Manhattan for $100 [total] now

Maybe the thread should be renamed?
 
This thread has gone a little off tangent. So there's no more 160/hr KMPs left?

It's obvious lowering prices DOES work, because now VC got the traffic and is raising prices.

In response to some comments..
1) Why not pay 160 for half instead?
That's not the point. The point is looking for 160 for the HOUR. For half hour, I'd be looking for 120-130.
2) Crappy KMP service
This is true, but they still got the hottest girls. There are hidden gems though and you all know who they are.. I'd rather go for the hotties and look for great service rather than get good service from a 50 year old.
3) Why do you need so much time?
Because you're spending your hard earned money and you want to enjoy it. If you wanna cum in 2 minutes... Might as well whack off yourself and flush the money down the toilet!
 
Most KAMPs are full TS but some just offer a shower. Therefore, the TS is not being offered like before. The newer Kgirls are less knowledgeable of a good massage. I am interested in the half hour but I might do it for a $120 but in these times with a tough economy, the public complaining about bonuses and expenses being scrutinized and the Fed, NYS, NJS LEs not just local LE being called to make arrests. In a simple cost to benefit scenario.

The $200 hour Kgirl is not worth it right now. Come on guys. Hit the danm gym, follow correct eating habits loose some weight and you'll have the legit babes all over you. Believe me legit girls want some dick as well. It's definitely cheaper than $200 these days. Has anyone tried to a gym date??? Or how about a roundtrip to AC? It's still cheaper than $200.
 
If you take longer than 15 minutes to pop, you have to do the hour. I don't do the FS AMP thing much because the service is typically SOOO standardized and all too frequently on the lame side. The girl may be really smoking, but she may not really know how to fuck. So, if you're jaded like me, a young hot K-girl doesn't make me cum in 5 minutes if she doesn't know how to work that pu-ghee or her mouth. I've ended proceedings with my hand all too frequently with a lot of these gals, hot as they may be.
 
Sounds to me like you all have just been to wwaaay too many of the wrong places are now fed up! That's what spendin' too much does -it eats at you until one day you wake the f' up and say I'm tired of this bsht- Lol!
But an hour at a good or great place feels like 1/2 hour -agreed? Not that I am advocating an hour if you don't need it. Most, not all, but most KMPs are LAME to begin with, so lame in fact that they all think that being lame is good!
You gotta school them, tell 'em- this is America people and we have real women here & with skills, we have real asses here, we have bbbjs here dammit

Now in keeping with the theme of this thread, these places as well as chinese & latina places are hurting now and I have seen price reductions all over. On the other hand those on the high-end seem to be raising their prices but, business is slow for everyone I talk to, so go figure. Like I said before.. http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/showpost.php?p=731238&postcount=20 B 4 Real, Nuff said!! -G
 
skip the lame massage, that will give you at least 15 before the knock. Most of the time they go over the 30 anyway, so why pay for it ...
 
Because half hour feels so rushed... 5 minutes for the shower.. she leaves for a couple of minutes.. 5 or less for the fake massage. 10 minutes in (20 minute mark).. the mama is already knocking at the door and you've only been fucking for like 5 - 10 minutes.
 
Can anyone explain to me what is there to do for an hour at a KMP...
Don't give me this shit about fucking for an hour...
Don't say you cuddle for the remaining 45 minutes...
Massage is very weak...
Once you pop you are done...
I just take a half hour and save money...
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธMonika๐ŸŒธLayra Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  40. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (9PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  41. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  42. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA (Hungary), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  44. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE (11am-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim. CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, NANCY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. NANCY is a curvy and very friendly Spanish girl, who has all the versatile skills you need. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and sexy Coco, pretty Ella and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today. Niko and Kiki. They are both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back walking were very good.
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Aiko Mixed Chinese/Japanese Girl Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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