A sad story of a MPA

[hangul99]

I don't deny it. I never said there aren't some girls willing to be that kind of friend that pays for stuff and can actually be called a true friend.

But the majority of the others fall into your second scenario. Even more so if they're younger. I've been in a similar situation in the past where I was used as a driver to go to clubs. She wasn't a sex worker or anything but what I'm getting at is the mentality of these girls to use men for other means besides what you think is you two bonding. Thought the chick liked me cause we went on a trip together, paid her share, chilled etc. Behind the scenes she's texting some next dude setting up their dates when she's back home and when she spent more time with him that's the last she saw of me.

It goes both ways. A girl used you for a driver, fine it happens. How many girls have you used or manipulated for sex? We've all done it.

 

[SuperSport]

I don't deny it. I never said there aren't some girls willing to be that kind of friend that pays for stuff and can actually be called a true friend.

But the majority of the others fall into your second scenario. Even more so if they're younger. I've been in a similar situation in the past where I was used as a driver to go to clubs. She wasn't a sex worker or anything but what I'm getting at is the mentality of these girls to use men for other means besides what you think is you two bonding. Thought the chick liked me cause we went on a trip together, paid her share, chilled etc. Behind the scenes she's texting some next dude setting up their dates when she's back home and when she spent more time with him that's the last she saw of me.

Exactly. We are not talking about "some" girls, we are communicating about the "other" girls. Take your experience, can happen to anyone even with a "regular" girl. What do you suppose the chances of that stuff happening with an MPA are vs regular girl? I can't be sure, I suspect it's higher, but you know who really know's? The "some" girls know, if you can ask them to explain about the MPA's, they will tell you exactly the stuff that happens.

And, let's not forget that these "other" girls are not intrinsically "bad" people, they were / are caught up as a result of their circumstances and cultural upbringing which molded them into what they became. Poor education opportunity, difficult young life, a surrounding society very different than what Westerners are familiar with. Example: In China lot's of people eat dog meat, while we wold not think of it, likely get arrested if you did I imagine. So there are some differences in relationships to that are just that different. It's actually fascinating to learn more about Asian Culture as there are obviously far more positives then the negatives which we are focusing on at the moment.

 

[hangul99]

Lol! You guys are acting like us men are all innocent. Look at the Netflix show on that guy conning women on Tinder or whatever site he was using.

We lie and cheat just as much as these women do.

 

[Flyingfox]

We lie and cheat just as much as these women do.

Very well said.

 

[hookerpuncher]

It goes both ways. A girl used you for a driver, fine it happens. How many girls have you used or manipulated for sex? We've all done it.

How many have I used for sex? Probably a thousand but that's just paying for a service. Manipulate into sex? Probably less than I can count on one hand.

I'm not saying I'm some angel. I'm a self proclaimed dirt bag within my friends circle. No one hobbys as much as me so they like to hear all the stories cause they're interesting when you're stuck with one woman. We're all degenerates here so that's why we get along with the sex workers cause they understand our point of view. Are there regular civilians like that, sure but its's more apparent in this industry.

The whole point of this thread was saying how shit goes sour when you're putting together someone from this grey area to someone that's never heard of it. At its core, we're all bad people cause of any moral judgement tossed out the window paying for pussy. So If I'm calling all these girls whores then we're all scumbags. Trying to go from this life to regular civilian life never works out at the end of day.

 

[OG_funguy]

So we shit on them for staying in the business and we shit on them for trying to get out...

Yeah, we could debate whether they should come clean but easier said than done. If you met the girl of your dreams, would you tell her you paid 'whores' for sex over a thousand times?

My only point is that we shouldn't be painting all the MPAs with the same brush.

At the end of the day, you hit the nail on the head when you said no one in this hobby are saints. Most of us would be embarrassed to share any of our stories to others that don't hobby. Like they say "whatever happens in Vegas...", this goes for both MPAs and customers.

How many have I used for sex? Probably a thousand but that's just paying for a service. Manipulate into sex? Probably less than I can count on one hand.

I'm not saying I'm some angel. I'm a self proclaimed dirt bag within my friends circle. No one hobbys as much as me so they like to hear all the stories cause they're interesting when you're stuck with one woman. We're all degenerates here so that's why we get along with the sex workers cause they understand our point of view. Are there regular civilians like that, sure but its's more apparent in this industry.

The whole point of this thread was saying how shit goes sour when you're putting together someone from this grey area to someone that's never heard of it. At its core, we're all bad people cause of any moral judgement tossed out the window paying for pussy. So If I'm calling all these girls whores then we're all scumbags. Trying to go from this life to regular civilian life never works out at the end of day.

 

[hookerpuncher]

So we shit on them for staying in the business and we shit on them for trying to get out...

Yeah, we could debate whether they should come clean but easier said than done. If you met the girl of your dreams, would you tell her you paid 'whores' for sex over a thousand times?

My only point is that we shouldn't be painting all the MPAs with the same brush.

At the end of the day, you hit the nail on the head when you said no one in this hobby are saints. Most of us would be embarrassed to share any of our stories to others that don't hobby. Like they say "whatever happens in Vegas...", this goes for both MPAs and customers.

Pretty much. Once you go down this rabbit hole you can't get out in some way. This life can follow you unless the person understands what you've done or are about. I mentioned my friends being scumbag'ish (man whoring but not paying for sex) but when he told his wife about his lifestyle she accepted it. Now they do drugs openly in front of each other. One thing to hide your life and have it blow up one day like this OP marriage example and having your partner knowing your past life.

When I'm in a relationship with someone I want to be with long term I mention I've been with escorts but embellish the number to make me not look like a total scumbag. Even if I said 1000 no one would believe me but if you throw out the 100 number out there its still pretty bad. So yeah I'm a hypocrite when it comes to that but at least the idea is there that I've done it. Double standard as well with most things. Guys seeing tons of girls is one thing and he's seen as a pimp but if girls do it she's a slut.

 

[Freshy1]

Same here, I’d like to hear about success stories. I can’t imagine it’s easy to go from $100-200/hr to average wages, and actually having to work. Not to mention the psychological damage it can do.

I also wonder about the damage it does to us. But, I guess that’s a topic for another thread.


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I've heard of an mpa from Perla that left the biz 6 or 7 yrs ago go on to get married, pop out a kid or two and live happily ever after.

 

[jimmyd]

I've heard of an mpa from Perla that left the biz 6 or 7 yrs ago go on to get married, pop out a kid or two and live happily ever after.

Love to hear that kinda thing.


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[Boston Man Chowder]

Honestly, who gives a shit what an industry woman does on her off time, what she spends her money on, who she's dating, who she's feuding with in the spa and all that horseshit? It's all mindless gossip and unless any of it affects the sessions you have with them, then stfu.

There are men who foolishly fall for these ladies and/or come into their sessions with the hope that it leads to more outside. They get called out for it and are told to keep it business. Rightfully so. However, the same goes for those who incessantly criticize the lifestyles these ladies lead even if it's none of their business. If they got the service they desired from them, to say anything more unrelated to it is counterproductive and irrelevant.

 

[Boston Man Chowder]

It's even more pathetic when some of us paint all these ladies with a broad brush accusing them of being heartless crackwhores who don't invest wisely nor have an exit plan from the business. Even when some of them do, you still insist that this chapter of their life will follow them around wherever they go. Well, for one, how will they get the chance to start that new phase if you won't let them? When you pry into their lives outside of the spa like the jerkoff in the OP's post or even air out their dirty laundry on this site from the little you know about them, you deprive them of their right to start anew. Let them worry about the measures they need to take in order to ensure their privacy is protected.

 

[Sybarite]

How many have I used for sex? Probably a thousand but that's just paying for a service...So If I'm calling all these girls whores then we're all scumbags. Trying to go from this life to regular civilian life never works out at the end of day.

Once you go down this rabbit hole you can't get out in some way.

Agreed.

Which is why I think a lot of guys would be pretty incredulous you could pay for sex a thousand times but if you got married, say for 30+ years, that you could just instantly shut that switch off forever and never be with another woman again!

Apparently that's what you've already been successfully doing every single time through a number of different relationships, but I guess it will be interesting to see how that pans out for you over the long haul.

 

[luvdafurburger]

It's even more pathetic when some of us paint all these ladies with a broad brush accusing them of being heartless crackwhores who don't invest wisely nor have an exit plan from the business. Even when some of them do, you still insist that this chapter of their life will follow them around wherever they go. Well, for one, how will they get the chance to start that new phase if you won't let them? When you pry into their lives outside of the spa like the jerkoff in the OP's post or even air out their dirty laundry on this site from the little you know about them, you deprive them of their right to start anew. Let them worry about the measures they need to take in order to ensure their privacy is protected.

Nailed it. They have a right to choose what they do unencumbered by busy-bodies.
What gets me is if someone substituted MPA for any other person in a service industry it becomes glaringly obvious how it's none if our business what they do in their private life.
For example does anyone ask the past behaviours and future plans of their dentist? Or barber? Or mechanic? Why would they care about the MPA's business then?
Guys don't need to be White Knights. They're big girls and can handle their own shit.

 

[Boston Man Chowder]

Nailed it. They have a right to choose what they do unencumbered by busy-bodies.
What gets me is if someone substituted MPA for any other person in a service industry it becomes glaringly obvious how it's none if our business what they do in their private life.
For example does anyone ask the past behaviours and future plans of their dentist? Or barber? Or mechanic? Why would they care about the MPA's business then?
Guys don't need to be White Knights. They're big girls and can handle their own shit.

I just sat back all this time having to read all this revolting crap on every other thread and it seems like the nosiness of some guys here has been amplified after the Sasha (@Pure) fiasco a month ago.

On top of everything we mentioned, it seems like they're more concerned about anything and everything that doesn't involve themselves, a hotel/spa room, the woman of their choosing and the service they asked for. Instead, all the energy is focused on if she does the same with other guys or why these guys would take her out on dates. Then the word 'simp' gets thrown around to the point that it starts to lose its meaning. Actual simps getting conflated with guys who show these women a modicum of respect and have no interest in nitpicking every negative aspect of their personal lives. They've become the thought police on this forum with the belief that every guy should treat their provider as a personal cum dump and then turn around and talk down to her online. If you speak fondly of a session instead of detailing it in the most perverted and crass manner, you're a simp. Every thread is starting to look the same.

 

[hookerpuncher]

Agreed.

Which is why I think a lot of guys would be pretty incredulous you could pay for sex a thousand times but if you got married, say for 30+ years, that you could just instantly shut that switch off forever and never be with another woman again!

Apparently that's what you've already been successfully doing every single time through a number of different relationships, but I guess it will be interesting to see how that pans out for you over the long haul.

I've been doing this close to 2 decades so it's worked out in a sense balancing degenerate life and personal life. I haven't cheated on my SO when I'm in a relationship and go off when I'm single without inhibition. Similar notion to that of smoking. I smoke a pack a day but I've quit cold turkey for multiple years when I want or my girlfriend doesn't want me to. I don't need to find another vice like vaping; I quit cold turkey. Well, we'll see when the day comes I'm married. Most of the people around me are and it's easy to see the mental fortitude of these guys when I'm bring up whores or drugs.

 

[hookerpuncher]

Nailed it. They have a right to choose what they do unencumbered by busy-bodies.
What gets me is if someone substituted MPA for any other person in a service industry it becomes glaringly obvious how it's none if our business what they do in their private life.
For example does anyone ask the past behaviours and future plans of their dentist? Or barber? Or mechanic? Why would they care about the MPA's business then?
Guys don't need to be White Knights. They're big girls and can handle their own shit.

Well, being a slut or scumbag comes with shade from others. That's just how things are. People gossip and talk regardless of what you do, but if you're putting your pussy out there for others to see of course others are going to criticize you.

I don't know how you conflate someone you get routine service from versus the future mother of your child. Example; my friend is seeing this guy from mutual friends within my circle. We find out he's been arrested for armed robbery and sexual assault in the past. Do I not tell her? She wants to be with a guy that has been charged with raping a girl.

This forum is just a small blip of the shit that gets outed on these girls. Stuff circulates through PMs, groups, and word of mouth so it makes no difference if you think people should ignore what other people do cause someone will post it anyway.

Given how you guys believe that people don't out others I'm sure you've never seen stuff on thedirty. https://thedirty.com/canada/toronto/#post-2652362

That's just one example. Anon IB was known as the revenge board for blowing up hoes before it got taken down but its revived. When you plaster your pussy online and are known as a slut that shit follows you. Reminds me of that Amelia Wang girl in porn. Comes from a super wealthy family with connections but now her pussy is plastered all over porn sites and not like it was some softcore video. She got used. You'll have simps that want her but I'd be surprised if someone of her family's status would want her after that.

 

[hookerpuncher]

I just sat back all this time having to read all this revolting crap on every other thread and it seems like the nosiness of some guys here has been amplified after the Sasha (@Pure) fiasco a month ago.

On top of everything we mentioned, it seems like they're more concerned about anything and everything that doesn't involve themselves, a hotel/spa room, the woman of their choosing and the service they asked for. Instead, all the energy is focused on if she does the same with other guys or why these guys would take her out on dates. Then the word 'simp' gets thrown around to the point that it starts to lose its meaning. Actual simps getting conflated with guys who show these women a modicum of respect and have no interest in nitpicking every negative aspect of their personal lives. They've become the thought police on this forum with the belief that every guy should treat their provider as a personal cum dump and then turn around and talk down to her online. If you speak fondly of a session instead of detailing it in the most perverted and crass manner, you're a simp. Every thread is starting to look the same.

It's not revolting. It's reality. If you don't think she manipulates men into thinking they're her best friend and reserves BB "just for them" you're naïve.

I'm just the silent majority voicing it for them cause they don't want to take the flack. Simping is a disease like being lemmings following each other off a cliff. Let's be real, majority of you guys are married. You have that much energy to defend a girl that's not even associated with you personally and if she was, how would that reflect on your wife or children?

Kinda like these snowflake pussy men claiming to be feminists cause they support woman. The women that matter have been doing fine without your support for ages so why band wagon to think you're making an impact on them. This perpetual cycle of positive reinforcement that's not needed is retarded. If the girl is smart with her business she keeps it that, banks what she needs, moves to somewhere no one knows her, and lives happily ever after. You are a speck in her overall goals, she doesn't need you.

Shit works both ways. When a contrasting opinion comes out tons of you clowns come out to refute the claim. The BB thread is obviously the best example of that. Sasha does it. Plain and simple. It's been posted across multiple forums. What more evidence do you need? A video of a John putting it in while showing her face?

 

[Boston Man Chowder]

It's not revolting. It's reality. If you don't think she manipulates men into thinking they're her best friend and reserves BB "just for them" you're naïve.

I'm just the silent majority voicing it for them cause they don't want to take the flack. Simping is a disease like being lemmings following each other off a cliff. Let's be real, majority of you guys are married. You have that much energy to defend a girl that's not even associated with you personally and if she was, how would that reflect on your wife or children?

Kinda like these snowflake pussy men claiming to be feminists cause they support woman. The women that matter have been doing fine without your support for ages so why band wagon to think you're making an impact on them. This perpetual cycle of positive reinforcement that's not needed is retarded. If the girl is smart with her business she keeps it that, banks what she needs, moves to somewhere no one knows her, and lives happily ever after. You are a speck in her overall goals, she doesn't need you.

Shit works both ways. When a contrasting opinion comes out tons of you clowns come out to refute the claim. The BB thread is obviously the best example of that. Sasha does it. Plain and simple. It's been posted across multiple forums. What more evidence do you need? A video of a John putting it in while showing her face?

Wouldn't you say that the men Sasha manipulated are simps as well? After all, they got the BBFS they were seeking but then put her on blast like the scorned, putrid wussies that they turned out to be because they were too naive to realize they weren't the only ones getting it. If a John is too oblivious to see that this business is a hustle and is unable to take the sessions for what they are, then they deserve to get played. To me, they're no better than the cucks who worship the ground she walks on.

I'm in my early 30s and single just like you. I am one of the customers most detached from this industry. I guess you can exclude me from that group of old, married men who waste all their energy online fighting tooth and nail for the honour of these ladies. My point in my posts above was that I don't care about the business' inner workings because as I said, speculating about what these ladies do in their personal lives and what goes on behind closed doors in the biz is mindless gossip to me. Anything that doesn't involve me, the woman I paid to see and what goes on between us inside the room, doesn't interest me one bit. I'm a simple man. I want to see a girl so I pay to see her for however long I want to see her. When it's over, I say thank you, goodbye, see you again. I don't care to know if she's spending all her earnings on cars and bags, if she's investing in real estate or what she plans to do after life as a sex worker. As long as it doesn't affect our sessions, that's all irrelevant. I don't care to bash her online by looking down on her for being in this line of work. After all, I got what I paid for didnt I? That's the type of respect I was referring to. This has nothing to do with positive reinforcement nor being a soy boy that puts pussy on a pedestal. I personally cannot stand any of that myself.

You can point out all these sites that exist where a bunch of old farts and incel-types ramble all day long about stupid shit. I thumb my nose at these losers the way these same fools look down on even the ladies who provided them with the service they wanted. Respecting them is not the same as falling in love with them or wanting to "rescue" them from this life. Anyone as delusional as that deserves to be named and shamed. It's about showing up to your session with proper hygiene, not being a haggling cheapskate and respectful of her limits. It's also about respecting her privacy when not in the room with her.

 

[hookerpuncher]

Wouldn't you say that the men Sasha manipulated are simps as well? After all, they got the BBFS they were seeking but then put her on blast like the scorned, putrid wussies that they turned out to be because they were too naive to realize they weren't the only ones getting it? If a John is too oblivious to see that this business is a hustle and not take the sessions for what they are, then they deserved to get played. To me, they're no better than the cucks who worship the ground she walks on.

I'm in my early 30s, and single just like you. I am one the most detached customers from this industry. I guess you can exclude me in that group of old, married men who waste all their energy online fighting tooth and nail for the honour of these ladies. My point in my posts above was that I don't care about the business' inner workings because as I said, speculating about what these ladies do in their personal lives and what goes on behind close doors in the biz is mindless gossip to me. Anything that doesn't involve me, the woman I paid to see and what goes on between us inside the room, doesn't interest me one bit. I'm a simple man. I want to see a girl so I pay to see her for however long I want to see her. When it's over, I say thank you, goodbye, see you again. I don't care to know if she's spending all her earnings on cars and bags or if she's investing in real estate, what she plans to do after life as a sex worker. As long as it doesn't affect our sessions, that's all irrelevant. I don't care to bash her online by looking down on her for being in this line of work. After all, I got what I paid for didnt I? That's the type of respect I was referring to. This has nothing to do with positive reinforcement nor being a soy boy that puts pussy on a pedestal. I personally cannot stand any of that myself.

You can point out all these sites that exist where a bunch of old farts and incel-types ramble all day long about stupid shit. I thumb my nose at these losers the way these same fools look down on even the ladies who provided them with the service they wanted. Respecting them is not the same as falling in love with them or wanting to "rescue" them from this life. Anyone as delusional as that deserves to be named and shamed. It's about showing up to your session with proper hygiene, not being a haggling cheapskate and respectful of her limits. It's also about respecting her privacy when not in the room with her.

They could be. It's typical grade school behavior to bully the girl you like. I remember some idiot on the Azn forum doing the same thing with Cathy back in the day and in person he was infatuated with her. Confiding in her and showing her all the PMs that he had with others to establish his position as her only friend. I wasn't personally putting her on blast but pointing out the hypocrisy of people defending her when they're the ones seeking out that service as well. I don't believe her weeb innocence as a facade to cover she's still a hoe.

I think we've all gotten the point across you can't paint people with a broad brush. Till people show they're outside of that stereotype I treat them that way. There are smart people on both sides to know how this industry works and can keep things professional. My rant was about simp incel culture being on the rise and they're not seeing the warning signs giving from people more experienced than them.

Gossip and drama is entertaining. Who's not going to watch a dumpster fire pass you by. I'm not creating it but when stuff arises like this Sasha thing or the Olivia @ Hush drama I can voice my opinion. In the end it won't change your choice to go see them, and hopefully won't impact their service but sometimes it will. If a girl is bombarded with these requests of course she's going to clamp down on all services and that impacts you. Who wants to see a girl that was GFE and now she'll only do HJs.

Respecting them is fine. That's normal etiquette inside the session. But it always goes beyond that as I've seen here. People refuting claims, saying this and that and in reality the girl is shitty service or a cum dumpster. Whatever happens within the confines of the appointment should be respectful. I never denied that.

Let's be real, privacy is out of the window when you're posting online via social media and it's their choice to do that and you have to live with the ramifications. Used to be there was no way to see into the personal lives of these girls but now they're openly posting it. So live with the life you've built. If you build up this persona of innocence when you're the exact opposite then of course you're going to be criticized.

 

[Chubbypickle]

I've heard of an mpa from Perla that left the biz 6 or 7 yrs ago go on to get married, pop out a kid or two and live happily ever after.

Guessing those kids just shot out.