Chat At crossroads with hobbying...what should I do?

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Nice...wish you all the best. If there's anyone on here who's seen it all, it should be you so I wonder what your secret is to keep going after all these years...
It's not me. it's my little KJ. I think about balls, golf balls every day. He thinks about holes and bushes all the time. He woke up swinging this morning again..lol
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
Long ago and not too far away, I took a bottle of very fine red wine to every session with a little hottie called herself Jade.
Lets say the wine was a great catalyst to amazing sessions. The spa BTW at that time had no problem with it.
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
"Make the mood". I believe that there are always some brilliant ideas out there...
Once I was waiting for Renee on the table after enhanced the setup a bit in a funny way.. she was laughing that loud that even took a pic of me (I hope to the her hall of fame:) the session was exceptional too...
There is always something that breaks the ice.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
 
Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
Definitely utilize the edible options available online.
 
I hear you but what can I do outside my comfort zone "at the spa''? Any ideas?

Here's the stage I'm at. You know how much you enjoyed your sessions with Lucy and Coco. Well, if I'm keeping it real, my sessions with them did nothing for me. Don't get me wrong, the place itself was nice and clean, the ladies were pretty, friendly and definitely above average (for semis) but the experience was still very routine for me. Maybe folks are right and I should take a break to recharge...but I know myself. I might slow down for a bit but I doubt I'll exit completely.

...my sessions w/Lucy were always unexpected... really doubt youโ€™d know our timing... maybe u need to let them take charge? Just a thought... she gave me a great shot @ COF finish once, she barely escaped... fun, u know?

...could PAY someone for COF finish, but meh, no mystery there...

...maybe u ironed out all yr kinks? If ever get cured of yellow fever, Iโ€™d try black & East Indian spinners... if not, maybe those jailbait chix at QQ... or high end SP... or just those cute Indy Asian SP like Asian Nicole...

...or supermarket milfs like Hangdai...

...how about going to that tiny spa with a few gems & โ€˜help them outโ€™? The KJ life... lite... bunch of disposable gfs...

...fun finding MPAs that look like friend or colleague... FILF or CILF... therapeutic...

... Iโ€™d suggest Pornhub 4 ideas 2 try out, but MPAs way more exciting than porn 4 me...
 
In the past, I averaged about 45 visits to sex workers per year. Now, I am down to about 8 - 10 per year. Visit them when it is in your best interest - time, money, proximity etc. and you will be fine. Also, demand good service and tell the girl what you will pay. I always tell the girl what I will pay. I dont care about her posted price. I saw a girl last month that advertises $400 and I paid her $200. Another girl last year wanted $260 and I paid her $180. Explain to them why you value them at the price you are paying. Dont be rude or aggressive about it. Just state facts matter-of-factly.

In general, dont chase a sex-worker and pay through the nose to spend time with her - that's when it become's worthless. No woman has value except that value you place on her vagina. And as she ages, her vagina becomes alot less valuable than what you might have paid her years ago. Treat a woman, a hooker etc. like a used car and be logical about it. You will be fine if you do that.
 
Thanks for the suggestion and I do want to try this place one day. But correct me if I'm wrong, this kinda place is one where you'll want to spend at least a couple of hours at and right now, I usually don't have that much time.
Itโ€™s a great place to hang out for a couple of hours. Have a steam, sauna, hot tub a snack and a cold drink. All included in the price.
 
I used to hobby quite a bit in my younger days. Then after a long hiatus, I ventured back in probably around 3 years ago. As many on here know, I mainly stick with semi-legits as I do appreciate a nice massage and the more casual (i.e. less transactional) atmosphere.

However, lately I'm not enjoying my sessions as much. Mileage is at all time highs so that's not the issue but something is definitely lacking...maybe it's because although I'm getting high mileage at semi-legits, the ladies just aren't that experienced (or good) at these higher level services and I can no longer rely on that 'surprise' experience anymore to get me excited.

The way I see it, I have a couple of options...start venturing into the holistic / SP world with younger, hotter chicks that know what they're doing or just stick with a good massage and basic hj at semi-legits and forgo the higher level stuff. By not being concerned with the mileage I get, it would also allow me to explore and visit more new places (since I would only be expecting a hj anyways). Of course, I could mix it up and do a bit of both too...

Has anyone else found themselves in a rut before and what did you do about it? I'm very interested in hearing other's experiences with this...

Been there. It's simple, change it up. Too much semi legit? Go see an SP, there are so many options... from Leo List to agencies.
 
I generally take a break every 3 months and stay away from things ,then when you start back hobbiying again it seems all new again with new faces and pussy to explore all over again!, not to mention the bank account can regain some !
 
I kind of understand that once starting this hobby,it takes you to different levels and some people based on income have to slow down and most of us are getting even more into it to the point like our friend is saying ,that almost nothing pleases anymore.My self,I went to this stages also in my over 20 years of hobbing where after I would see one girl ,I would think about going to see another as soon as possible,sometimes in the same week.Then I had some years when I slowed down but almost never able to totally get out of it.It's very hard to advise because almost never works the way we think,once we got into this hobby.One think that I could say is that there is always gonna be another one that will create interest for you to the point that it will never end, as long as our blood is running to our veins.Try to think less of this and maybe will help finding the best solution and maybe change something in your life.Stay safe and enjoy life!!
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...

I've always enjoyed exercise regardless of hobbying but I know what you mean about at least trying to look respectable with the ladies...
 
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Haha, pretty sure whatever charm I 'might' have will not make up for my physical deficiencies when it comes to the premier girls...definitely out of my league. But I guess that's a good thing...and I do want to try one day.

That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.
 
That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.

Thanks for sharing your journey...and yes, there's more on the bucket list to check off so I guess I'm not quite done yet ๐Ÿ™‚

You may recall some of the advice you gave me way back when I first joined this forum. Looking back, I've come a long way since then. I remember being so caught up with my 'honey'...I was thinking about her all the time (like everyday) and would be so depressed whenever she took her annual trip back to China. She's still one of my faves but I'm in such a better place now. She's been in China for several months now and while I do think about her from time to time, I'm not 'sad' at all. It's a long journey and I guess each of us continues to learn and adapt along the way.
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Lucy, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌLUCY AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  33. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Bobo, Jap/Chin Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน
  34. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  35. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  36. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  37. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  38. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY; EVENING SASHA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  41. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ANNA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  42. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  43. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard street west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl MIMI๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ apple- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic beauty with great service and attitude kโ€†k- Spunky fun in... Attachments Call and text 6478910699 Ask...
  44. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available open long weekend ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily, amazing touch, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ‘
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅOur famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday May 22nd with busty 36DD young girl Bobo, Sexy New Petite Japanese Cutie Mico and Sweet Sensual Busty Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Call Annie Spa to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐ŸฉทAnnie Spa๐Ÿฉท 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 โ˜Ž๏ธ647-891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Mia โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super ๐Ÿ˜˜ Luna sexy body ๐ŸคชBeautiful tits๐Ÿ˜˜very good deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected servic
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Mia Vietnamese sweetheart girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Bobo, Jap/Chin Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Lucy, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌLUCY AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
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