DFK - Why Classified as an "extra"

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Something that I have always been curious about ever since the nutty lists were making the rounds was why DFK was treated as an 'extra' in the same manner as bj's etc . As far as I know it is not illegal ( or the kissing booths at country fairs would be outlawed - lol ) so why the problem ?

There was a poll sometime back which surprisingly showed this as the most desired activity . Ignoring , for the moment , the sadness that you need to pay to get kissed and the obvious YMMV due to breath , teeth etc , I'm having a hard time seeing why this is such a big deal in terms of secrecy . There are a least a few MPA's that have taken the poll to heart and seem to want to provide this as part of the regular service .

Guess I have missed the point somewhere along the line .
 
I understand your point but DFK is a very intimate act. Frankly I love it if I really like the lady. I think that many of the MPA's don't do this - or at least with me. Glad to hear that more want to provide it.

V12
 
As I recall, it was called DFK so as not to draw attention to the ladies. They used DFK but really implied much much more.
 
If you've ever been on the "inside" at a MP, if a girl walks out of an appointment without lipstick, or if it is badly smeared, she could easily be fired, as the boss will think she is giving BJs.
 
There are a lot of SP's who don't alow DFK. It is a more initmate act than say DATY. As far as the lists go, don't trust them until you have obtained first hand experience.
 
Being new to all of this, could someone please enlighten me on these terms

YMMV
DATY
DFK
 
its funny how someone thinks that DFK is too initmate but then allows DATY. Go figure?

I do agree, however, that DFK may lead to some sort of emotional involvement, which I think the MPA wants to avoid at all costs.
 
Look in the lounge at the sticky thread

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370
 
DFK is definately more intimate. It can confuse some clients because it gives them the idea that something more than what goes on is possible. Although I am sure most guys enjoy that experience it can lead to complications down the road. I have actually had a client who after I provided DFK, insisted that I date him. I told him I wan't interested and it led to a huge issue where he has to be banned from our club as he would never stop harassing me to go out with him. Previous encounters hadd included other things, but as soon as kissing became involved it was like he felt there was more between us.

Emma22
 
I've always found it strange how many girls in the industry ( and some hobbyists ) hold DFK to be sacred in terms of getting "intimate" ( in some cases it's likely an excuse ) ... I thought possibly it's just what they learnt from our good friend societies moral values. If that's the case it would also apply, in part, to it's highly valued status in this industry to some of us.

However, if I were to be sexually involved with someone I wasn't that attracted to, then DFK would be the thing I'd be most apprehensive about, which shows that there is some type of added physical contact above other sexual acts. But then again, as much as I hate to admit it, I'd be more inclined to want to receive than give in this type of situation. I'm not sure if this relates to this "emotional involvement" thing though ...

I really don't see how DFK can spawn emotional involvement or vice versa in the context of an MPA / client "relationship" ... Emotions are essentially separate from physical interaction, even though they can intertwine, under certain circumstances.

It's almost as though some girls need to keep something sacred, but, as markymark alluded to, licking & sucking of "private parts" as opposed to a mutual a bonding of parts which aren't so "personal" ( face lips, tongues, teeth, barbells ) as being less intimate strikes me as a little odd. That isn't to say I don't see it's higher value under certain circumstances. In essence ( to me at least) , if no emotion is attached it is purely a sensual physical act, within reasonable limits of emotion.

what was the question ?
 
Remember the movie "Pretty Woman" with Richard Gere and Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts refused to kiss Richard Gere because that was considered too intimate. Same thing with MPAs. This act is reserved for boyfriends. Sounds stupid and is the reason why it is so rare. So if you find someone who provides this service, you are truly fortunate.
bruce
 
Isn't it odd that this act is shown on TV very often especially on the reality shows such as "The Bachelor" and "Temptation Island". And on those shows, individuals are DFK'g a number of the participants. In this case, it doesn't appear that the individuals consider this act as "intimate" as some would. I too find it odd that MPA's don't mind allowing daty but say no way to DFK or even LFK. Daty is allowing a tongue bath in their most intimate body part. This must mean that women who allow daty but not DFK must find DFK is more of an emotional thing which they are unwilling to part with. Mind you, I hope to believe that MPA's known to offer DFK, do not allow this with everyone. I would hope that these MPA's would at least be somewhat attracted to the individual.
I truly enjoy DFK if I click with the MPA but I would also avoid it if I don't click with an MPA. It is a pleasurable act that I enjoy with a select few. Even though my handle seems I seek DFK in every encounter, I don't...only with the right MPA and in the right situation.
 
I have to admit - I look forward to finding DFK in a session, and so far, no such luck.

But when you think about it in real life terms for a second, it's kinda funny. You have a really good chance of hooking up with someone at a bar or dance club (non-peeler joint) and ending up DFK'ing them. But going any further, such as the coveted finish, would be waaaay outta line, not to mention not too common!

On the flipside, DFK is so hard to find with an MPA, yet there are other options that are quite readily on the table (or so I hear but again, I have yet to find)

Seems to be one of those 'things that make ya go hmmmmm....'
 
Well I would be Emma22, silly. And I figured a perspective from the MPA side would be beneficial. Was I wrong?

Emma
 
No, not from Body and Soul. I am from Kitchener.

Emma
 
Yes, Emma from Kitchener. Your perspective is most valid.
 
Well, is this the appropriate place to talk about me?? I will talk about the subject, but I think it might end up sounding bad.

Here goes:

Ever had a one night stand at the bar, greatest experience of your life, she was great, and well, you forget to call her, becuase sex, although this shouldn't be the case, is just an act. I've had one night stands, so I'm sure you have. When I kiss some one, especially DFK I want to feel there is some conection there, becasue it is no longer just an act that can be forgotten, or that I barely remembered (due to the presence of copious amounts of alcohol). When I kiss someone, they know for sure whether or not there is a conection, and maybe a lot of people in this industry are afraid or making that connection. It is easier if we can keep work and life separate. Does that help with the question??

Emma

P.S.: I intend no offence to men or women, but damn the English langueage it limits me to words.
E
 
We love to hear what MPAs think. And unlike Mel Gibson, we do not have a clue. So to all the MPAs out there, get a massageplanet.net alias and let us know what you really think. Anonymously of course.

Personally I think that oral is more intimate than DFK, but for MPAs who receive/provide oral or attach significance to osculating, they might want to keep something back; at least symbolically. Therefore the intimacy and importance attached to DFK. Or possibly they refrain because of bad experiences with wingnuts, which spoils it for the rest of us.

Personally I prefer a bare hug to tonsil hockey. ... err I mean bear hug! Amanda Hug and Kiss right Rusty, Ref and all you other switch hitters? I wouldn't know as I am only 17% gay.
 
I love getting hugs from a clinet and I will always end the session with one. I want to remind them that I actually care about them, not just their wallet. I also try to remember something (like the name of their dog) it works for me as I don't think enough of the girls in the industry care about more than their bank account. Also I have a background in physiotherapy so I always can ask about injuries and their status, it makes them feel good that I remember them.

Emma
 
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  37. SugarLoveSpa:
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  38. Lilyspa1:
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  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนyoung beautiful new girl Cici slim body,amazing body slide,Deep massage,nice ending,must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
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  41. AliceSpa:
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  42. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  43. wilson holistic centre:
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  44. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Philippine ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Malaysia ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, NANCY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. NANCY is a curvy and very friendly Spanish girl, who has all the versatile skills you need. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
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