Go Go Touts on Bangla Rd

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A simple no thanks and keep walking worked well for me.
 
I just ignore them totally and they leave me more or less alone. They dont deserve any no thanks.
 
Well, I'm pretty sure that no foreign TP volunteers were involved in detaining these touts, because we have absolutely no authority to do so (cos they are Thai...). Maybe it was Thai TPVs or Thai TP or the local licencing guys who detained them - definitely not the foreign TPVs.

It is was farang who detained them, then that would be the Immigration Volunteers - not my camp...

As to how the foreign TPVs can assist tourists re these touts, since we have no authority to detain them in any way, all we can do is try to 'educate' tourists prior to the event, and try to mediate after the event.

In any case, it's not a good situation re these touts, but I need to change my nationality to Thai before I can do anything 'physical' about it :(

About the lizard guys, they have no trading licences, but it's also not illegal to tout the lizards for photos. It is illegal to do this with the baby gibbons. I'm fully aware of the guy who 'touts his gibbon' (sounds a bit rude..) outside of Banana disco on Beach Road. We passed photos of the guy and his gibbon onto our Thai bosses almost 1 year ago, but nothing was done about detaining him.

Simon
 

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.... and Thaicam!

FFS - Raw has given an honest answer to the root problem :great: ... NO-ONE knows better than him whats going on with the touts.
 

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Went out a little after 9 last night. What a change Friday night is from Thursday. Many more people, families again, with kids, the costumed people with the froggies were back, more touts, and lots more vendors with trinkets for sale. The restaurant was 1/3 full - same place had been dead the night before. Went down to the beach, where all the white-shirted tourist police volunteers were lined up at attention.

A big tourist van came along, and parked by the tourist police station. Lots of VIP looking people, others with video cameras, and others looking like they're on the way to a major event got out of the bus and several vans that pulled up. The crowd of VIPs, reporters, officials, and all kinds of uniformed guys walked down Bangla, stopping on the way to pose in front of posters while many people took piccys and vids. Then the whole group turned right towards Jungceylon, and stopped once again for a photo session. I guess I couldn't resist - snapped the photo you'll see below. I asked one of the volunteers what was going on, and he said it was a visit by the Minister of Tourism and the Minister of Sports. After lots more handshakes and photos, the VIPs got into a van and drove off, the tourist police volunteers and other uniformed guys went their separate ways, and I headed off as well.

I was going to make the video of walking along Bangla, but with all the police, army officers (I think), VIPs, reporters, and so on, it wouldn't have been a typical night. Instead I just got the snapshot below.
 

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I have noticed the touts in SD and at the entrance and their numbers have increased in the year between my visits.
Although i am approached by them i just give a wave of my hand and a "no thanks" with a smile. That is my experience of the touts and it's only because of threads like this i now fully understand the situation and the pitfalls.
Guess i've been lucky (in a beginners sort of way) that none have attached themselves to me on entering a Go Go or been persistent in trying to get my attention.
I'll be more aware my next trip..would be nice if they were banned by then:rules:
 
You just don't get it do you! The gogo bars with the shows are NOT charging more money on drinks because they have the pingpong/bird stuffed-in-the-moneymaker shows. They are NOT charging anything above their normal published prices which generally are 120baht for a beer. You can walk into one of them, order a beer, watch the "show" for FREE, pay 120 for your beer and walk out if you want to. The shows are paid for by the woman who does them going round the customers afterwards with a box asking for tips.
 
Sometimes I think this forum is some kind of parallel universe........
 
You've no doubt been involved for longer than I have. For me it's only fifteen years or so, and I've always been walking around on Bangla Road to take photos. Last night didn't seem much different from the year before, but I'm only talking about the touts actually out on Bangla Road.

I only drink beer, and rarely go to the bars, so maybe that makes me a "non drinker". Still none of the touts has EVER come up to me, wanting to take me someplace for drinks - it's always to go see a show. Not one of them has ever gotten upset or angry when I say "no thanks" and keep walking.

You're correct that I've never wandered into Soi Seadragon. Maybe that's different from Soi Eric and Soi Crocodile, but going to those other places it's all the people from the bars who are trying to drag you into "their" bar.

Just for the heck of it, I'll walk around Soi Seadragon sometime in the next few days. Whether I'm a drinker or not, the touts will most likely see me the same as always, as a "tourist". Like I said before, no touts have ever tried to get me to go someplace "for drinks". Every single time for as long as I can remember, it's been to see "a show".

I'm not arguing with you, or in any way saying you're wrong. I'm only saying what I experienced last night. From what I've been reading in this thread, I expected to find things very different from before, but (for me) that wasn't the case at all.
 
Wonder if those VIPs had any problem with the touts...:whistle:
 

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Do you remember these comments way up above? What you're saying is quite different from what Paul has posted. I do "get it" if you mean do I understand what Paul posted here - it's very clear. I'm sure that other places charge the way you say they do, but that wasn't Paul's experience at the place he posted about.
 
Just a comment from me in my police volunteer role [see other thread].

In all my patrolling work on Bangla [hundreds of times], I have NEVER been approached by a tourist with a complaint that they have been overcharged for drinks in a bar or gogo. Charged for lady drinks that they didn't buy - yes that happens. But charged 500 or 600 baht for a drink? Never. And complaints about being hassled by touts? Never. Not one single time. [Yes, tourists moan about them, but no-one has actually wanted to make a formal complaint]

[So that either means that the tourists are happy to pay these inflated prices, too scared of the touts to complain, or think that I am on my way to a fancy dress party...]

Simon
 
I used to just ignore them completly with no eye contact. That normally worked 90% of the time.

The couple of times one or two of them followed me in to a go-go, I just stopped before entering and just waited for them to leave before going in myself. Took all of about 30 sec as they realise you know the score.

Might have changed since I have been there of course.....
 
Simon, I do recall back in 07 I was at Dingos Bar in soi croc.
One or 2 of the lizard/iguana guys used to use Dingo's as a base.

I was there one night & Trent said to me.....Hey mate, ask the iguana guys where their iguanas are?
So I asked one of the guys & he said.......Police take iguanas from us & put them in jail.,,,(hard not to laugh at that)
They had to sort out some kinda paperwork/bribe.....A few days later when I went back to Dingo's, the lads had their iguanas back & ready for pics.

If Trent reads this, he may be able to elaborate some more?
 

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Easyrider_au, yes, it's a licencing/bribe issue, nothing to do with the illegality of possessing the iguanas.

Since the iguanas are not native to Thailand, it is not considered illegal to tout them for photos, whereas the gibbons are native and an endangered species, and therefore totally illegal to tout them for photos, (not that it has encouraged the Thai police to arrest the guy with the gibbon).

With the iguanas, I only intervene if the touts are shoving the lizards in the face of terrified tourists.

Ugly buggers (the iguanas, not the touts...)

Simon
 

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    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Happy Sunday,ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,open maid,amazing full body massage,really popular,give you warm comfortable time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  34. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Pretty Girl Cici, New Sexy Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌCICI๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: Super SPINNER SUMMER: is a super petite student, very small and slim, 5โ€™3โ€ & super spinner 90 pounds, All Natural 33B Cups & 33โ€ Spinner Hips, very young looking with her pretty baby face. Great at bbbj dfk cim rim cof. Excellent service and Spinner Bod!
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Sophia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage salon ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธNinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and sexy Coco and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & JENNY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded.
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approach
  46. luckywellness:
    295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7, There are two girls working today, Yoyo and Lala. Lala is the new girl, she is very very young and very very thin, both of them provide very good massage and service
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนMonica, Julie and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Pretty Girl Cici, New Sexy Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌCICI๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
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