How long does the average ho last in the Zona?

For those of you inclined to flame wars, just remember that you are impressing NOONE. 99% of the guys on this board could care less about your disagreements and name calling because we read and participate in these threads to acquire and share INTEL, not to read a transcript of immature, overly macho mongers flaming each other. If you don't have something useful to write then there is nothing wrong with writing nothing at all. Or are each of you trying to have the last word?

PS- I think it would be difficult to say how long the girls last in the business because it must be assumed that many move around to other cities to ply their trade once they leave the Zona. Others retire from the life then pull a Brett Favre/Michael Jordan routine and return to the Zona within a couple of years. Some genuinely make the decision to retire, for one reason or another, and stick to it.

But, generally hookers are like pro athletes, they get a lot of mileage from their God given attributes but are considered "over the hill" and facing retirement by their early 30s- with some rare exceptions. TJ is unique in that working girls over age 30 are common even in the top clubs and the average working girl age is more like 25-28 years old as compared to the typical 19-24 year old lineups common to most other places in the world. Many TJ putas have worked in other "bush league" markets before making the move to TJ, which may explain the older age. Maybe Mexico has cornered the market on MILFs.
 
Kittyfreak: You are working very hard to deny the fact that TJ is not safe. But, then again, you could be a TJ club operator or business owner in real life. Or, maybe you are the "high risk" lifestyle type. Many guys who check this site for information are not like you and your handful of pals on this board who like to play around in high risk areas with impunity. Maybe you have a problem?

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I do not have a problem. I am trying to inform anyone who cares to be informed about what is going on in TJ. No source of information is 100% reliable. Nothing personal, but I trust the San Diego Tribune more than mpnet. You can believe or disbelieve what you want. I am not advocating the safety of TJ as that would be contrary to all available credible information. I have also personally had negative experiences with the police in TJ which I have not emphasized in my recent postings-let's face it YMMV.

You are working very hard to deny the fact that TJ is not safe. But, then again, you could be a TJ club operator or business owner in real life. Or, maybe you are the "high risk" lifestyle type. Many guys who check this site for information are not like you and your handful of pals on this board who like to play around in high risk areas with impunity. Maybe you have a problem?
 
going back to the original purpose of this thread, I would like to point out that if we can get culero's mother, sisters, and gal cousins to retire, the average stay for zona hoes will quickly drop to about 4 and a half years IMHO!!!! I hope they dont do it though, how else is the poor guy supposed to get his extended sessions at a discount and all this "genuine" complements on his good looks. I'm just trying to make a point here.
 
FB: I think I found Kittyfreak's problem?

Notice how he writes, 'just the facts?"

He believes if something is written on the internet, government site, prostitution study, Newpaper, even 'SignonSanDiego' that it has to be accurate?


Like I said before we know what kool aid he like to drink.I wonder if the news said come to the station and get 1million$$ I wonder if he believe them.
 
Fireballs,
I don't have at hand the link right now, but remember some time ago, an article in the same newspaper (or other Cali print outlet) that firmly stated that a reporter had witnessed a TJ barker at an unnamed club informing him that minors were available by the bushel?
That girls were brought by force to TJ to work as prostitutes, some having 13-14 years of age?

At that time we all agreed that the media is biased and totally against prostitution for 2 reasons:
1. They don't know truely what the hell is going on.
2. They can not endorse prostitution cause it's illegal in the US.

I agree with you.
You always have to read between the lines when dealing with news outlets.
 
And they told you the truth because you are Pocho.:confused:
 
This is a pretty clueless comment/statistic to assert.

How stupid is it to assert that 999 out of every 1,000 return home and marry a mexican?
Pretty stupid!

How stupid is it to believe their amigas?
Incredibly stupid!



My oldest son is 13 years old.
He thinks he knows everything too.
 
First of all I know many, many gringos with Puta and ex Putas wives from the Zona Norte, and many more living on the other side.

Culero I still think there is a good chance you have never even been in the Zona Norte. How can any "pocho" be so clueless.:confused:
 
Culero, I did NOT write the word monger in my post.
And generaly speaking I have a regular life that allows me to see regular folk in contact with other regular folk.
And you speak of the "rancho" that TJ is.
Am speaking of the BIG cities, not big jokes like Tijuana.
Am talking about the big cities like Guadalajara, Mexico City, that atract international traffic, international students, and Mexicans that go abroad to work, study.
 
Kittyfreak wrote:

I think I found Kittyfreak's problem?

Notice how he writes, 'just the facts?"

He believes if something is written on the internet, government site, prostitution study, Newpaper, even 'SignonSanDiego' that it has to be accurate?

Now I don't blame someone for believing those stories in instead of reading stuff from a bunch of mongers, but just because something is written in a study, or newspaper doesn't always mean it's accurate.

Now this study Kittyhawk below seems exceptional, and about 5 years is what I read in other places. But for every good study we find, we usually find at least 5 bad studies, like the latest one from UCSD, which by the way I talked to two of those people via Email, and one of the things they told me is there will never agree to another interview with the San Diego Tribune for some of the things they pulled!

Personally I don't believe anything out of the right-wing San Diego Tribune that enjoys slamming Mexico, and insists that prostitutes can't be called 'sex workers." I also am very leary of corporate media outlets that lie to us, take the Russia vs Georgia, our media tells us that Russia is the aggressor and stated the thing, when clearly other reports outside the US say Georgia started the fighting with a sneak attack on Ossetia during the Olympics.

Oh I read most of the reports that come out regarding kidnapping and gangland killings, but I take them with a grain of salt. I also know that newspapers like to sensationalize the hell out of the news.
 
Methinks you may be just pissing into the wind. Your credibility is rock-solid with me, Friend.
 
Your speaking for yourself, didnt u claim u are Spaniard but not Mexicano?

The gringos going to Tijuas just can't get laid in the USA and can't attract Mexicans or Chicanas. Thats the SAD truth. :p
 
I would hope I have credibility. I thought proving my point with his Paisano may wake him up a little.
 
I know the Zona Norte well. What kind of question is that?
Lots 2,3 is alot? Thats all they can get a puta? sad.
99.9% of the chicas return to their small towns,cities or ranchos to marry a Mexican guy. Thats reality. How do i know? I ask their amigas .
 
I don't think you have to prove anything to anyone, Sampsonrico. You are a credible guy. As far as the white-Mexican dating thing, can people just agree to disagree? There is validity to both sides. This argument isn't going anywhere.
 
I will try to spell it out for you. Culero is claiming to be Pocho and calling me out for making up a story, and I told him he can verify the story with Martin(who is also Pocho).
 
Sampson an influentual man? If you only knew the connections my familia has in Tijuana. lmaooooooooo nobody can touch me in Tijuas :D
im goodlooking,and nobody can touch me in Tijuas. :D :cool:

Sampson is just a gringo living in Mexico. with no papers :D
 
Culero is wrong all right.
Mexican girls of all society levels are into gringos, as they are into Europeans.

We as human beings tend to sometimes opt, if given a chance, for something different to what we are used to.
That is why some of you guys like Mexican girls over American girls, same thing the other way around.

And remember, we are talking "what if", not that it is going to happen.
 
Sampsonrico, I can understand that you have had unique experiences and met many fascinating people in TJ in your time as a pimp. But, I don't see the relevance of knowing a bar manager to us at mpnet. Most of us are only intersted in the panocha (pussy). Honestly, why should a monger give a flying fuck about the guys who work in the Zona? We are on opposing teams. The club workers are there to take as much of our money as possible. They are not on our side.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  32. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s sexy body open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body, young cute Taiwanese Victoria slime open mind 25โ€™s and nice GFE cute are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  33. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ YUKI, MALIYA, MONICA, SASHA, BELA, AMANDA, PREETI, ANGELINA, SABHA, MONIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  34. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience.
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services.
  36. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga ViVi Sarah and Kiki work. They are young, sexy and cute and they give very good massage. Sarah is 23 years old and still a student. She only works for one day.
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  38. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Aiko She is a gorgeous model type Mixed Chinese/Japanese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  39. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Fun Girl Bonnie, Indian Girl Radika and beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  40. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Sexy Faye, RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS ONLY $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHelen๐Ÿฌ
  41. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open long weekends ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,amazing ending,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
  42. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Monday May 19, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky ๐Ÿค—, Mia ๐Ÿค—, Sandy ๐Ÿ˜, Ivy ๐Ÿฅฐ and Sophie ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  43. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls Downtown toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  45. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Angela, Eva, Yoyo, Jenny, Julia, 34D Cici, Julie, Tiffany & Lindaโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธMelissa๐ŸŒธTiffany Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open long weekends ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,amazing ending,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  48. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  49. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl Anna working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  50. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FLOWER โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6, Markham ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong, 9PMโ€“2AM) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule โšœ๏ธ bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
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