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Hi all, I have not posted for ages but I know I can count on you guys for some support. I am beating myself up (as usual). I am qualified in Swedish massage, Aromatherapy Massage, Hydrotherm Massage and IHM (and other stuff which is irrelevant at the moment). I have just done no hands massage - at the weekend. and I loved it. I had a client in today who presented with what sounded like muscle spasm and I thought no hands might be good for her. Did the treatment and she came down saying nothing had changed at all, although she did enjoy the massage. On closer questioning, she told me that she had actually fallen off a ladder shortly before the pains had started so I have suggested she goes to her gp for a check up before booking with our sports/injury therapist.

My problem is that I feel like crap cos I didn't "fix" her. I often feel like that and seem to be only good enough for the relaxing massages - I know my pressure is not light so that's not the issue. Hugs please??? feeling worthless!!
 
dont feel bad one cant fix what they dont know about she should have given you more imfo in the consultation im now a sports therapist and my consultation and firness asessment lasts about an hour and thirty mins
 
Hi Ambermoon
I am not a massage therapist so cant comment much on your post but just wanted to say dont beat yourself up too much. You cant "fix" everyone and you gave the person good advice by sending them for a check up. IMO the client should have told you about the accident before you started.
You are most certainly not worthless and not making this client feel better with one appointment does not make you so. Take a minute to think of all the people you have helped .

So a big cyber hug from me
Love and Light
Linda
 
Hi Amber,
only a caring therapist like you would reflect on yourself and criticise that much! Huge e-hug to you :-) massage is the appropriate / adequate manipulation of soft tissues no matter which technique you use ;-)
 
Hi Amber.

I am a No Hands massage Master Practitioner and have been using it for some years now. I can reassure you that No Hands, nor any other style of massage will always be able to 'fix' everything and I have also had clients who I have had to refer on because I could not help them.

Whilst it is, of course, important to be good at what you do, I think it is also important to be focused on the client here and now and the massage, and not the outcome.

I know that I am very good at what I do; I also know I cannot solve everyone's problem.

Falling off a ladder could cause injuries that a massage will not, in itself, heal. You will no doubt have had some impact on your clients healing process which may be easier and take less time because of your treatment.

Knowing when to refer on is as important as knowing how to massage well.
 
Come here, ambermoon! (A big hug...)
Now forget about it! It is not your business to fix anybody. Even if you could fix them completely, they will only allow you to fix them as much as they are ready for.

Don't carry this cross. It is not for you to carry. Everyone is on a journey of some sort. It is all perfection in action. However little or much they move forward is entirely interwoven into their personal quest.
You are perceiving your self as responsible for their chosen path. Hence feeling of cr*p. Lighten up deary!
 
Thanks for that Derek - I was kind of hoping you would post. I saw a post of yours about no hands massage from some time ago. I think my problem is that I don't know that I'm good at what I do and always doubt myself. I agree with all the posts about my client's healing etc not being my responsibility etc etc. However, she did not feel ANY benefit from the treatment at all. I was gutted! I know that I did the right thing in referring her to her gp in the first instance and that she has probably injured herself during the fall. I am also pleased that I opted for the no hands option rather than deep tissue which, I feel, might have made things worse - I do elemis deep tissue - all that elbow work really freaks me out a bit! No hands is so much nicer to do and to receive, I think. Anyway sorry for rambling on and thanks for all your support. I will try to lighten up! Its the self doubt that gets to me really!
 
Just to chime in what the others have said - you can't fix everyone. It can be disappointing to have a client say they feel the same. Massage is not always an instant fix. Also your client didn't give you the full information about what had happened. When a client tells me they have a particular ache or pain I always ask if they know what might have caused it or what they have been doing lately.

You did the right thing suggesting she sees her gp.

I am sure you have had many positive comments from other clients so think about that - they can't all be lying to you - lol.

Once you start feeling more confident about your treatments things like this won't phase you.
 
You can't 'fix' everyone, you actually can't 'fix' anyone, ever heard the saying 'the therapist is on the table/couch'? You can often facilitate what the person receiving the treatment is getting, but what they get is all dependant on what they are prepared to accept.

I remember seeing one client with a bad back for a couple of months, quite major improvements in her back/shoulders/neck/flexibility. She eventually told me the treatments weren't helping with her candida and that was the last I saw of her.

I'm always amazed at the people that come in, one shoulder up near their ear, all sort of twisted saying they did something to their neck, you work on them, shoulder comes down and they say 'it still hurts when I do this!' as they manage to get their left ear over their right shoulder.
 
I agree with what Cola is saying. I tend to agree that we are facilitating what the person receives but how they accept it is another story!

Recently i have seen quite a few clients who want quick fixes, who want their problem solved in one treatment and even when they are feeling lots of benefits from the treatment, it hasn't fully resolved their problem and so they are dissapointed. Yet, others are understanding that it is a process and glad that it has helped provide some level of relief.

It is disheartening when a client turns round and says they haven't felt any different, especially when you as a therapist know how wonderful and beneficial massage is. I also think it can be a knock to the confidence and have found myself reminding myself that everyone accepts the treatment differently.

Am sending you a big hug ambermoon as have been on the receiving end of comments myself and know it can sting. As Essence says, remember all those positive comments you have received and remember how many people appreciate the service you have to offer.
 
Hello again, Ambermoon 2 and you are welcome.

I do agree with all the comments about how we are only facilitators and the client will take what they are able to take from your massage, and remember Gerry Pyves telling us as much. But, I also know how you feel and have to admit that I am disappointed if the client doesn't feel much better, too! The biggest lesson I had to learn was not to be upset when, after what I thought was a magnificent massage and I asked the client how they felt, they'd say, 'ok', or, 'fine'!! Some people are so out of touch with their bodies that they don't know what they feel and others just can't say how they feel.

Anyway, remember to be guided by your hara, feel grounded in your sole, fall gently, but deeply, and go with the flow.

Don't seek perfection, just love what you do.

And if I ever get to County Durham, I'll drop by for one of your lovely massages and put your mind at rest!
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Sexy Busty Girl Faye, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! Chloe beautiful good body BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHELEN OR FAYE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  36. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. CLAUDIA: is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbj
  37. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒนwelcome toWonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina strong to relax oil massage,back walk,nice sexy body slice.amazing ending,๐Ÿ”ฅbring you comfortable time
  38. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  40. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  41. Spa in Markham:
  42. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  43. Pink Flower Spa:
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cutie & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cutie is young, very pretty, long hair, great services. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open kind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, MIA, NANCY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have three girls working today, Vivi, Sarah and Kiki. They are young, beautiful, sexy and cute. They can give massages and are also fun
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜so open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  50. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Fun Girl Bonnie, Indian Girl Meera and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
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