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Hi all,
I have contacted all of the lead stakeholders in massage (well the ones I had in my address book anyway), including training providers, lead body members, qualifications managers etc to ask what they think the minimum number of hours/days in class and supervised by a tutor, that a student should have to attend to be competently trained in body massage. This doesnt include home study or case studies, just in class tuition.

Unfortunately for students, and training providers, there are so many interpretations of the definition of 'guided learning hours', 'contact hours', 'notional hours', that many students and training providers/tutors are completely baffled.

As therapists, and or trainers, what do you think the minimum should be?

Im really trying my hardest to get clear guidelines on a minimum level of classroom based training, so that there can be no confusion, or grey areas, and I think the more therapists that get involved in this, the better.

Hope you can help
 
this is the minimum standard set down by the lead body:

Subject Unit Hours
A Anatomy, Physiology and Pathology MT1 โ€“M5 - 60 hours
B Massage (Whole Body) MT1 โ€“ M1&M2 - 80 hours
C Business, Professional and Ethical Studies MT1 โ€“ M3 - 10 hours
D Health and Safety in the Workplace MT1 โ€“ M4 - 10 hours
E First Aid MT1- M6 - 5 hours

Case Studies and Home Study
A minimum of 15 clients, with a minimum of two treatments per client, for at least 8 of them.
The overall total should be at least 36 treatments. These treatments should evaluate the
effectiveness of massage therapy for clients overt a period of time. They should also be used
by students as reflective practice for self evaluation and continuing professional development.
In addition to the above hours, students should be fully aware that considerable home study is
required. The hours required will be determined by the students ability and commitment, but
are unlikely to be les that 250 during the training as a whole.

This is also the minimum required for CNHC regulation.

The problem is, it is stated as guided/contact hours, so there is still some ambiguity.

I personally believe that everything apart from the body massage and the first aid practical, can be studied at home, so the A&P etc can be done via distance learning.

That would leave 85 hours. Done over an average of 7 hours per day would be around 12 days in class, but unfortunately the guidance states guided/contact, so if we split that 50/50, then that would leave 6 days of practical training.....as a minimum, and I would say that would have to depend on class sizes. I think a small class of 6 students could probably get through it, with a good tutor, but if there was double that, or even more, then the number of practical days should be increased.

I honestly think we need to have a minimum number of class hours set down, to rid this profession of the weekend warriors, who churn out these fully accredited and insurable level 3 massage courses in just 1 and 2 days, IMO it is damaging to our profession.
 
my posting which appeared here has been removed by the moderating team because I questioned / critised advertising policies of this forum.
 
People can become Level 3 massage therapists in 2 days?! I knew things were getting bad, but didn't realise how bad!
 
Hi ST

Maybe the solution would be to limit the practical session to X amount of students, or that a larger group had to have extra assistant tutors, improving the student to tutor ratio. So for example, student teacher ratio of 8:1, 16:2, 24:3.... If it can be policed properly of course. Not a problem for theory contact time with a bigger group.

As for GLR, I thought that it had to be that amount of time if taught state-funded college. Well it was when I was teaching. Each lesson plan was looked at by the AO, and if it was too short it would be rejected. I know, it happened to me once. So I said to the AO that the rationale quoted "recommended GLH" and they replied that they had to make sure it was being complied to because of QCA rules.

So going back to your OP, yes I personally think that GLH should be minimum not recommended and that goes for private schools as well.

Best wishes

RP
 
Hi RP,
I was involved in discussion with a member of an AO the other day, and was told that despite the QCF definition of guided learning hours being 'contact hours', the AO was adamant that it was just guidance, so its no wonder there is so much confusion, as they stated that eg 360 GLH could mean just two days worth of contact hours! Crazy, and not what QCF are saying.
 
taken from the massage lead body, GCMT website this morning:

[Q.] I have limited time to train to be a massage therapist. Would a distance learning course meet the requirements?

[A]Very often distance learning courses do not cover the recommended number of hours of practical training. Massage is an intensely practical profession and the student needs a minimum of 80 hours of practical, hands on training to ensure they are safe to practice.
Many Colleges of Further Education teach part time courses, in the evenings and occasionally at weekends. Completion of these courses would allow you to join a professional association and be regulated by CNHC.

There we go, clear guidelines from the lead body, which has been set, not by regulatory boards, or government advisors, or the medical profession, but a group of massage therapists, most of which have many many years experience in therapy and education, and this is their expert opinion.
 
As well as working on a mobile basis, I manage and work in two Holistic clinics. My business partner and I have been interviewing all day for a new massage therapist in our central London clinic.

We have (so far) turned down four applicants because they studied the A and P aspect through long distance learning and also had insufficient classroom time.

If we are going to keep the massage industry professional and free from these people who think long distance or weekend 'wonder' courses are acceptable we need to start making a stand. Welldone Sportstherapy, for getting the ball rolling. I would hate to go for a massage only to find out the therapist had qualified through distance learning...classroom time is what is important, so that the tutor can correct you etc.
 
I agree with ST & Ectomorph. We do corporate massage & often get calls from people looking for work. It's very depressing explaining to someone who has done just one or two day training in good faith that no it's not worth worth coming in for an interview, yes there is a huge difference between someone who is fully qualified & someone who isn't and no we're not going to let them loose on our clients.

I've no problem with one or two day courses as taster or top up but it's unfair & misleading when they masquerade as practitioner courses.
 
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    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธAnnaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sexy girl Suki deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  41. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ AMMU, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, JOEY, BELA, MIMI, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Sara, Tracy & Cindy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs
  45. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  46. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyday(open long weekend),Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet smile,open maid,everything she can provide,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
  47. SpringGreen.:
    The weeked is here .New spanish tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny miya,angel and tina are available today.These busty attractive girls provide a high level of service with a smile. call and text message ask questions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 call and text quentions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and young cute Kitty 26โ€™s with curve body open mind, young flirty Yoyo with 36DD curve body open mind 30โ€™s and nice GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia new Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Elena Vietnamese girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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