Nude Reverse And Touching

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Good service is so key, and the reason why some girls/spas do exceptionally well. The bar is set so low. Clean facilities, friendly attitudes, smiles, remembering personal preferences, etc. I don't know why more MPs/MPAs can't figure this out.

btw, lots of girls fake the attitude and make us think it's good service. That's just part of the fantasy.
 
Any wonder why it's easier to get BJs than digits from MPAs.
 
well if you ask Bill, I don't think I had sexual relations with any MP so far.
 
Ahhh PP...In a way, I disagree. I dont think it should be demanded, and not every girl likes it. However, I do think nowadays, its relatively standard fare. I also feel that way about digits, lfk, dfk, etc... Will all of the above happen with everyone, of course not...but all of those are provided quite regularly all over the massage industry. As are bodyslides, foot fetishes, prostate massage, etc. Over the yrs I have been in this industry, mileage demands have risen. Its all part of "MP limits". An attendant should assume she will be doing some or all of that at some point with someone. Probably not with a smelly guy, a grabby guy, an aggressive guy, or an asshole...ideally with lovely, gentlemanly, talented gents
 
No touching las time at Muse for me anyways. I was tied up by the lovely Brooklyn for the full 45 minutes while she did her thing! Gotta do that again!
 
One blatant exception to your statement. Prostate massages are always performed on an asshole!
 
If I recall, you tipped her especially well for that session! That sounded fun, but is it something you'd want to do every session with Brooklyn, or would you repeat with her if she became restrictive in a non-bondage session?
 
And you ride a white horse to these sessions to rescue the damsel in distress. Please get off of the white horse, the bar has been risen, mileage is an important factor in a hot session, so much so that you can't have one without it. That said, yes some other things like attitude, intensity, presence of mind, cleanliness all matter as well. But you cant fake mileage.
 
Glad to have your view from the trenches, MPA2. I think we're on the same page. There's no such thing as "never".

Ultimately, it's a business decision. I might accept certain restrictions in the first session, but I'll lose interest quickly if things don't get more interesting the third time I see her. You're right that expectations have changed. From chatting with fellow hobbyists, I think much more is expected in that first session now.

HG - funny cuz it's true!
 
So who should I see first, LIA or HAZEL ?!

Seriously though:

I agree the mileage bar has definitely been raised in the 7 years I've been visiting MP's.

DATY, DFK is much more prevalent than in the past. It's obviously an MPA's right to choose when it comes to her own body. That said, nowdays I can't see a highly restrictive MPA making money with repeat clients, unless she's VERY special.
 
All of the girls have their limits, and it's important to respect them. Just because you're not engaging in a particular act (whatever it might be..) doesn't mean that you can't still have a mindblowingly amazing session if both you and your attendant have the right attitude (and making your attendant uncomfortable is probably not going to end well..)

That said, all other things being equal, more mileage is better than less.. and I'm not too sure I'd be keen to repeat if I got the short end of the stick on the YMMV scale (not counting the first visit).
 
Hey Tease. Not just with Brooklyn but with any mp or even sp for that matter. I've seen her three times and counting: The first two were great as well (non-bondage) She has both the look and persona to match. I don't know how Muse does it.

Also, I posted earlier I'd like to have a session with Bailey, And Brooklyn for the half at 220 all inclusive. That's definetly on my to do list. BTW richecag I got your message but couldn't respond because apparently your inbox is full. My response tho is go see Brooklyn you won't regret it.
 
I must admit I haven't been hobbying much as of lately, but over the 10 years since I started, mileage was definitely a ymmv. The way I always looked at it, the better looking,hotter (body, face, etc) MPA usually wouldn't give it up easy because they have more going for them. The, lets say, more average type MPA usually would give it up pretty much right away. That has been my experience.

To be honest, I am more or less am a true MPA guy. I like the build up, the tease, the subtleties of a real good session. If I was really gung-ho about doing Daty, DFK, Digits etc, I would just go to a SP.

I think the real "stars" of this business, personally, are the ones that use creativity, special manoeuvres, work the room, incorporate some individuality into their sessions. I wouldn't necessarily judge a good session on whether the MPA lets me do whatever I want to them. I have left some of the most intense, best sessions I have ever had and everything that went on was very much on the level.

I have been a repeat client of a few legendary MPA's and I would say that, even with the, I need not venture into these so-called new expectations because they are that good at their jobs. Obviously this is a very personal opinion and it seems on this board that there are clients from each end of the spectrum. I pretty much stick to the "elite" spas and I am very happy with what I get. And if it means anything, I am always respectful, clean and nice.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I completely agree!! Mileage doesnt = a good/great session. 2 totally different things. Even mileage can get boring without creativity, personality, passion, and a girl who gives a shit about the customers experience.
 
Speaking for myself, I completely respect the comfort level of any MPA I'm with... I can't think of anything that would be less pleasant than trying to push an MPA past her comfort level - not my idea of fun. So I respect the boundaries wherever they are set, and if it's a session full of limits, distance and minimal teasing, I will be very polite and pleasant, pay in full, and never repeat. There is never a requirement for any MPA to do anything they don't want to do, but again I do believe it creates a practical question as to how well they can do financially in a competitive field where other MPAs aren't as concerned about keeping their clients at arms length. Men are what they are... even though some have different tastes, most guys will prefer a sensual, intimate session; that's just simply a reality that also deserves respect from those who choose to work in this industry.
 
Absolutely! If you think of any of the legends that's exactly the thing that sets them apart.
 
right me too...I was receiving and providing a massage service...nothing more...
 
I'm in Ottawa and the massage/escort market here is very different.

Why are the Toronto massage parlors so popular when the prices are so close to the escort agencies? Why is wanting/getting more mileage from MA's an issue when you can get whatever you want from an escort for, it seems to me, just a few dollars more? What am I missing? Are the MA's simply much more beautiful/sensual than the escorts? I visit Toronto a few times a year and with such huge selection (compared to Ottawa), it's hard to know who to see! Thx,
 
Its indesputable that the mind is the most powerful sex-organ we (men AND women) possess .... If a man's mind is stimulated during a massage session then the Lady who is attending to him becomes one of the "Legends" of whom we all speak, and its totally regardless of the "mileage" .... We will come away experiencing the afterglow we lacked when we arrrived at MP.

That being said, If we as clients can stimulate the minds of the Ladies, the possibilties that we'll be very pleasantly surprised, surely may increase ...

In addition the the hygiene factor already discussed at length .... respect and charm may well contribute to a truly memorable session

Within MP limits .... of course !!
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  35. Spa in Markham:
  36. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia๏ผŒyoung girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Linda , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  38. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  39. Pink Flower Spa:
  40. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big boob Joey ,amazing massage, starting to ending,really popular girl,must try๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ‘
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Taiwanese Victoria 25โ€™s slime open mind and young flirty Tina with sexy body open mind 30โ€™s,young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and Cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸฅฐA stunning new Korean massage girl with a captivating presence, long silky brown hair cascading down her back, and a petite, elegant figure that exudes charm. Her warm touch and intuitive skills promise a deeply relaxing
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  45. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: JOJO: is a busty JAPANESE girl, nice DD Cup boobs, short, petite small body, pretty face AV S2tar, bbbj cim cof rim, special services available. LUCKY (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D
  46. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Jessica Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along with. Sasa friendly Vietnamese Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Sami Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Sexy Akino and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILLโ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Ellagant Ella, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY ARE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ Ella๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ
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