tg are rascist?

[Pompal 09.]

agree with you there LiL.....saw Franti just by himself a couple of years ago in London doing an unplugged set.....absolutely magnificent...blew me away....and funnily enough reminded me of Gil Scott Herron in his younger days......high praise from me indeed.....see my earlier post re GSH..........

Also I saw PE several times in the eighties and nineties and their power...."fight the powers that be"........ always got me!!!!

 

[Wayne Z]

Larry David: “That’s a myth? Huh. Too bad for the black guy…”

I thought it would be considered more of a compliment than a racist remark. :biggrinlo

I thought Frode had every right to post what he did. I’ve known people with a Uni. degree making far more racist remarks than her. Now THAT’s appalling, coz they should know better.



Was actually involved with a Kurdish girl a few years back. But had to break it off when...

...her two older brothers came knocking on my door

 

[allforjehovah]

For me, the easiest way to stop myself from behaving in a racist manner, is to ensure that I hate EVERYONE in equal amounts.

Then you cant be classed as racist because you aren't singling out any one group in particular.

Works for me.

 

[3rdXCharm]

Absolutely!!! Gang Starr and Guru are essential. And the words really mean something, but just gunz and hoz. Also, just about anything by the Wu Tang Clan. My favourite is Liquid Swords. So creative!

By the way, did you know that Gil Scott-Heron's dad played for Glasgow Celtic? True!

 

[mommy811]

Ever been to LOS..?

The only money that is green in LOS is the 20THB note - the lowest denomination. If that's "all the money that spends" for you, then you are not going to get very far...

 

[Pinolera]

They are very aware of skin colour, darker skin is associated, rightly or wrongly, with poor peasants who work all day in the field; rather the way flat caps and braces were once associated in the UK with the 'common folk' of the North - until they became popular with the country and stockbroker set.

I often compare my pasty white arm with the gorgeous beige of a TG, calling my skin 'milk' and their's 'coffee' or occasionally 'chocolate'. You have to be aware of their sensitivity to skin colour (look at the number of skin whitening/bleaching products on the shelves of any pharmacy) and it's usually only after thay have compared our skin colours themselves. I always emphasise how much I like coffee and chocolate... :ytounge:

 

[psyche]

this is not logical because a part of the population thai to phuket is Moslem

 

[StrongGIRL]

You heard wrong buddy, Just ask Sa :blah:

55555555555..

 

[Obastro]

To be honest, I didn't include Maryland, Delaware, or West Virginia, which are south of the Mason-Dixon line, or Washington, D.C., but if you have ever been to any of those states, then you would know that they aren't really the South, since the people living there aren't Southerners, i.e, no Southern accent, Southern food, etc. They are no different from where I grew up in Southwest Pennsylvania, about 50 miles from the MD line, close to W. Va., and Maryland. Nothing remotely southern about the area. That Mason-Dixon line was a term coined over 150 years ago, and reflected the political divisions of that day and little else. W.Va. split from Va. at that time, because the people there were unwilling to side with the Southern views of the rest of Va. and chose to fight with the North in the Civil War.

Did not include Kentucky, Tennessee, or Missouri either. Kentucky and Tennesee are what we call the "Border States," meaning that they don't fall into the category of North or South. Basically, the people in those states are hillbillies and/or coal miners, and their urban cousins, which is a different breed of folks than Southerners, IMHO. I would say the area around Memphis is a bit Southern, but not Nashville or the rest of the state. Kentucky is more hillbilly than Tennesee. I don't dispute that the racial attitudes around there are not as progressive as the Northeast, West, Midwest or Eastern states, but it is still not the same as the South, attitudewise or otherwise.

Missouri is another state, that is a little bit Southern, but still not quite like the South. It is in between the Midwest and South, and is really an area which has its' own blend of Southern and Midwestern qualities, not exactly like anywhere else. There is some racism there, but I think they've made a great deal of progress(a lot of my ex's relatives were from St. Louis and smaller towns in MO). Remember Harry Truman? He was a quintessential Missourian, and, to me not at all like a Southerner. And he wasn't a racist, either. He is responsible for the first laws that began the path to equality for the African-American minority. He believed in giving every guy a fair break, regardless of race.

So, even if you included all of those states, that is still far from a majority of the population or the land area.

I really do know what you are referring to, the racism that is still below the surface in America. But it is the kind of "I don't want that guy living next door to me kind of racism. I don't want that guy dating my daughter racism. I think they are mostly lazy, no-goods, who want a free ride on welfare,and have low moral standards kind of racism." Those are the typical attitudes of the whites in areas where that kind of racism persists, and a certain amount of segregation persists. In the neighborhoods in PA, where I grew up, there are loads of nice houses for sale cheap. But, oddly enough, not a single black family living in that whole section of the metro area. A coincidence. Hardly! But yet, people who live there go to work in the city, and work side by side with blacks every day, and get along just fine with them, think they are nice people, don't hate them, and would never wish for any harm to come to them.

So, racism still exists in America. And it will for many years to come. But it has changed tremendously, and it is changing. The SF Bay Area is socially what you might call avant garde or cutting edge in the area of social progress. That is one of the reasons I settled here. Because I really couldn't stand the level of racism back East where I grew up, which was very in your face in those days. Although, even then, at the high school I went to, although the black kids were treated differently, they were never harassed, verbally assaulted or insulted, or openly treated in a bad way. It was all, as you say, below the surface. But not at all below the surface, when the black kids weren't present. And although, there was a lot of bad-mouthing of blacks, in general, going on, if someone said something specifically against a black kid, who was known to be a good kid, then you would see white kids, who kept their mouths shut when their friends were running down the black race, in general, that would speak up and say, "Hey, don't talk like that about him. I don't want to hear that kind of shit from you!!" Which would shut the first kid up, or else there would be a fight. And that was progress from the generation before.

Things are getting better in America, as far as racial problems go, IMHO. There is still a long way to go, but the progress made is remarkable when you look back to how it was only a few decades ago. SF is leading the way, but the rest of the country is moving in the right direction.

 

[Adie - Mexangl716]

Maybe I'm just picky, or sometimes it is because I get a late start, but sooner or later, comes the occasional night when I have not met a girl who suits my fancy by 1:00 AM. Then it is time to go to Nana to the parking lot or to the sidewalk outside the entrance to NEP: BGS on parade!! :ytounge: There is an electricity in the air there at that time like no other place. EXCITING!! :biggrinlo

But I don't recommend waiting til 1:00 intentionally. If you find a girl you like before that, then why wait, why pass up a good thing?

 

[Carrie M]

Counting on it JayBee.

If so I'll just go down to the MTB and drink the night away

 

[audri]

We have a Muslim family living next door in Birmingham and one night, about 2am, the door bell rings - the rather attractive daughter had sneaked out of the house to see her boyfriend :love2: and her father, thinking she was safely tucked up in (her own) bed, had dead-locked the door. I had to get the ladders out and help her, ever-so-quietly, to climb back in through her bedroom window. :biggrinlo

Mission successful and she's married now: not - I think - to the boyfriend mentioned above...:blah:

Everybody same-same

 

[Wing]

I don't like it because I don't like bigotry in any form. Yes people ask questions and yes you bring some insight to us, I have no issue with that. Why do we have to know the detail of what she said? Read the thread, there are guys who have had the decency, and the balls, to say to us 'hi, I'm a black guy and this is my experience', how do you think that they would feel reading what you posted?

yes many of them are racist's, but maybe they are because they don't know better.

If you had posted this in the first place then I would not have reacted because I agree with it completely.

 

[Four Monkeys]

First off this is not a rant against the USA and particularly the people of the US.........but I don't subscribe to the rosy coloured glasses view of racial harmony in the country.......

I will agree with you JB that in the more progressive areas of some cities like San Fran or NYC and perhaps even to some extent LA, Chicago etc there are pockets of places were colour is almost a non issue....and in many others there is a working respectful relationship going on......but in my pretty extensive experience of travelling and working in the US this don't add up to a hill of beans compared to the length + breadth of the US particularly in the South which is the majority of the country.......sure it may not be PC to say it but you get the feeling that it is always there bubbling away under he surface......just watch people of different ethnicities on the street look down as they pass one another......

Also have a drive through any neighbourhoods outside of the downtowns and see just how integrated this ONE Nation is.........

I agree that people unite in times of tragedy and the initial reactions to the 9/11 attacks were truly amazing........some of the best images of human co-operation I have ever seen.......but then whole of the US goes to war when the US president says so and everyone unites behind him.....hmmmm.....

Who does the fighting?....who gets killed?? who goes into the war ill prepared and without adequate gear? who gets discharged without compensation when they are seriously injured and physically impaired and who comes home and is ostracised by the people around them due their forced dysfunctionality.......I'll give you more than a hint........it is a massively disproportionate perceneforum.xxxe of US men + women from the ethnic minorities + poor south of the of USA fighting for the people with money and power......simple as that

 

[Kevin W]

thats just the world, armand
hip hop, and not just the music is completely mainstream now

 

[chren03]

Personally, I like tickling the girls stomach from the inside.:biggrinlo

 

[HighHelper]

I same saw mosques with phuket town

 

[Lady Silver Rose * Wolf]

Sorry, I meant NOT just gunz and hoz.

 

[Rocks]

LOL I like to Tuck em in after im done Or they say "Can you bring me something to drink"

 

[talker1996]

Paddies[/B] are stupid.

Whaddya mean Paddies are stupid? Hang on, is that the doorbell or is it time to get up?

Seriously - steve@thaib, your integrity and sincerity is to be congratulated. I say this as the father in law of a girl who is a first generation African immigrant. I love her to bits and I'm delighted that I will very soon be the grandfather of their mixed race child. He/she will be so beautiful!

They were teenage sweethearts, together for eight years till they got married last year. During the time they've been together, my son went to Liverpool University and was subjected to disgusting racist comments about his girlfriend. It really shocked and upset him. This was in the first year, when he was in halls of residence. Someone even wrote 'nigger lover' in really big letters on the door of his room. For a university, in a supposedly multicultural city, it was just unbelievable.

My son knew exactly who did it and when he told me, I got in the car and drove straight up there from London to confront him personally. I then spoke to the university who suspended the kid, as they should. But when I got hold of him myself, I realised he was just this dumb **** who came from some tiny hick town in Lincolnshire (oh hang on again, is that me being racist?) He'd never met a single black person and therefore didn't know anything about them.

The thing is Steve, I've also lived outside of Europe for a lot of years and I can promise you that if you do the same, your views about racism won't necessarily change but they'll definitely become less dogmatic. That's how it's been with me. It's just not that simple mate.

Racism springs only from ignorance. When races mix and spend time together, the level of ignorant racism naturally diminishes. But you simply can't lecture people into being non-racist. Gentle persuasion, good personal behaviour and attitude are the only things that will do it.