Using Arnica?

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Its the deer season opener this weekend - I would like to do a "Calm of the Wild" (get it? CALL of the wild!) Sportsman Special type thing. A more deep, sports oriented massage - These guys can get pretty stiff sore after a day in the field. I heard that Arnica is great for healing and sports massage - but how can I incorporate it into a massage? In what form do I use it? Anything else I can use? Sombra and Prossage would be good too.

**I dont like hunting of ANY kind....but after totalling two cars by hitting deer I am more inclined to believe in some population control!
 
Using Arnica

Hello, I use Arnica Oil brand name - Weleda. It has a woodsey smell and it works nicely to massage with. Massage catalogs and health food stores carry it. :D
 


ergh.. just lost my post..

anyway, cute idea.

i think that biotone dual purpose massage cream has arnica and ivy in it. arnica is very good for bruising, aches and pains (i have a horse trainer who swears by it). if that particular cream isn't it, i KNOW that one of their creams does have it.

do a search for 'arnica montana' and you will certainly find creams, ointments and such with this awesome ingredient.

good luck!
 


Yes, the biotone dual purpose cream has arnica and ivy extracts in it. I use it all the time. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't say how much arnica is in the cream. I personally use arnica gel on injuries, especially when my hands are sore, I rub it in. I wouldn't use it directly for massage, unless it is built into the product. I would apply it after the session in the effected areas, and educate my clients on the benefits of arnica as a suggested measure.
 


I also use the Weleda Arnica Oil and think it's fantastic! I use it full strength on my elderly clients. You know how how their skin gets thin and anytime they bump something they get the large bruise-like discolorations (especially when they are on blood-thinners?) Well, I put arnica oil on them and it really helps a lot. Some of my clients I even give them some to take home with them to use in between sessions.

I also add some of the arnica oil to my massage creme and I swear that it helps to prevent soreness in my hands.

Angie
 


Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php
 


Intuitouch said:
Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php

When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) - would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount to matter?

I use arnica a lot and I love it! Great idea Dorikaters! I hope it works out for you.
 


Oh thanks so much guys - awesome information. Thanks for the links, I'll check them out right away!!!
 


Masthera said:
Intuitouch said:
Great idea!

Here's another oil to consider trying out. I have found the Arnica & St. John's Wort Massage Oil to be quite wonderful. It is the second massage oil listed at this link.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/lotions/oils.php

When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) - would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount to matter?

I use arnica a lot and I love it! Great idea Dorikaters! I hope it works out for you.

i'm pretty sure that's only if you ingest st. john's wart. i don't think an oil on the skin is going to mess with BCP.

i love arnica gel. i have not tried welda's because it contains lanolin. i've always heard that it actually dries you out. i do want to check out that mountain rose product. thanks for the link. :)
 


Masthera, I would tend to agree with Jillith, however I don't know for certain.

I emailed Mountain Rose Herb Company with your question and hope to hear a response from them soon. I have invited them to post their response directly or if I receive an email from them I will post their response.
 


I have a client who uses the Arniflora Arnica Gel.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/browse/sku_detail.jhtml;$sessionid$00GYT2UZF0MQMCQUAOYCFEQKCQB00GXK?SkuID=588&BreadCrumbType=SearchResult

She swears by it.
 


I received this response from Mountain Rose Herb Company.
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Dear Kathy,

Unfortunately we will not be able to assist you as much as we would
like, because we are not licensed practitioners nor medical doctors.
Per FDA regulation, they forbid us from providing you with medical
advice, dosage information, potential drug/herb reactions, or assistance
with questions relating to injury, illness etc. While some of us are
knowledgeable herbalists; we are neither licensed medical practitioners,
nor pharmacists or researchers, and we are legally restricted from
answering your medical questions. Specifically, I am not familiar with
the Birth Control Pill in any way, and I would not be able to give you
an accurate answer because I do not know exactly how the Birth Control
Pill works or how it specifically affects the body. The only way you
can really get a thorough and accurate answer to this question would be
to find somebody who had specific knowledge about both materials in
question. We thank you for your understanding and recommend that you do
your own research, if appropriate, with the assistance of a licensed
practitioner, (Naturopath, nutritionist, pharmacist, medical doctor
etc.).
Our only recommendation at this point is to refer to one of several
links we have provided below.
We hope this helps and thank you for your understanding.
Regards and best wishes
Graham

The American Herbalists Guild
http://www.americanherbalistsguild.com/

Herb Research Foundation
http://www.herbs.org

The Directory of Holistic Practitioners
http://www.diagnose-me.com/regional-X.html

The Holistic Junction
http://www.holisticjunction.com

Mountain Rose Herbs
A Herbs Health & Harmony Company
PO Box 50220
Eugene, OR 97405
(800) 879-3337
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com

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Subject: Question about St. John's Wort affecting birth control pills

Name: Kathy

Message: Hello. I am the administrator of massageplanet.com, a forum
for professional bodyworkers and massage practitioners which encourage
practitioners to discuss professional issues, products and other aspects
of our profession.

During a discussion about arnica I made a recommendation for your arnica
and St. John's wort massage oil. A question came up regarding the
effect of St. John's Wort on birth control pills. Could you please
address this concern?

Actual question: "When using this oil (because of the St. John's Wort) -
would you have to watch out for women on Birth Control Pills? I have
read it will reduce the effectiveness of BCP. It is too small an amount
to matter?"

Link to the forum:
http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3578

I would like to post your answer on the forum. If you would prefer to
address this question directly you are welcome to register to the site
and post your response.

Thank you,
Kathy
 


Thanks Intuitouch! :D

Here is some information about St. John's Wort from one of the links for anyone else that is interested: http://herbs.org/greenpapers/stjohnswort.htm

Within the information it states that there is no evidence that supports it having an effect on birth control pills.

Also here is something else that I found to be useful: http://www.holisticjunction.com/displayarticle.cfm?ID=65
 
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  32. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  33. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (9PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (11AMโ€“2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  34. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
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  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beaut
  37. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today, Sophie and Kiki, they are young, pretty and cute and the massage was very professional.
  38. wilson holistic centre:
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  41. Soul Relax Spa:
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  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  43. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
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  45. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE (12pm-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim.
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, young pretty popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA, LINDA, LUNA, SHAYLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin
  48. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 15 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, MALIYA, JANVI, MONIKA, BELA, MONICA, MEGAN, JAZMINE, PREETI, PREET ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  49. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
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    SUNNY , GABBY , LARISSA , KIKI , MICHELLE AND VANNA AT TOP NOTCH WELLNESS. ALL SUPERSTARS CALL OR TEXT 437-522-9961 TO BOOK
  50. pickyreviewerr:
    BLACKPINK WELLNESS CENTER - Lisa, Apple, Tiffany. CALL OR TEXT 647-395-3188 to book
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