Newbie and advice needed for Sciatica

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Hello all. Just found this website be accident. My story is this. About 11 years ago i had 3 car accidents within a period of 2 years. All were rear or side shunts and i was not held accountable,infact all three happened whilst i was stationary. I have had mild lower back pain on and off from that point on, nothing that a few pain killers couldnt sort out. However about 4months ago i was floored (on my hands and knees) by the most excruciating pain in my lower back. My wife called for a paramedic who gave gas and air but in the end i was taken to the local hospital were an injection and suppository were given, They said it was sciatica.
I was then referred by my Occ Health department as my pain never really eased. I was seen by a consultant in a Sheffield Private Hospital who suggested an MRI scan. The next day i was told i had a bulge and L4/L5 degeneration. There was a proceedure called "Spinal Fusion" which in his opinion has a 50/50 chance of working. He suggested i see a pain consultant first to see if that helps.
On first meeting my consultant he immediately told me i needed to have Facet injections and an Epidural as he couldn't work with me in the condition i was in. After having those injections i felt some relief and managed to get back to work (Cabin Crew) for one flight. However over the last week the pain has come back and is almost as bad. It is down the left leg and something i never had before, pain in the right arm and pins/needles in the right hand. I have a tens machine and my consultant has said i may need another 2 injections. I am really down over this as it's affected me totally, with work my personal life, infact my wife has left me about 9 weeks ago. I am on Anti-Depressants and have been for about a year due to low mood. I want to help myself and have bought a pedal bike an enquied about yoga but not committed myself. I just dont know what to do. Do i approach the consultants again and tell them i'm not happy with the way things are, do i put up and shut up..

Sorry for the lonnnggg post.
Regards
Pete
 
Hi Pete and a warm welcome to HP.

So sorry to read of your back problem. I myself had sciatica, a couple of years ago now. My GP prescribed tablets which didn't actually do me any good, so I put up with the pain for ages until, in desperation, I decided to consult a chiropracter. Maybe I was lucky, but the treatment sorted me out in 6 weeks. Each treatment immediately relieved the tingling in my legs which was so awful, so at least I was free of it for a while after. Then eventually, all the pain and tingling went. It was a massive relief after having sciatica for about a year.

Therefore I wondered whether that sort of treatment might help you. IMHO, if you're in pain, like I was, it's certainly worth a try.

Hope this helps and please keep us posted as to how you get on. There are lots of friendly and helpful people here on HP, an a lot of them, even myself. forund this wonderful site by accident. It's been a great support to very many people and hope you will find this as well. Please stick around.


Best wishes
Moonfairy
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Hi Pete, and welcome. I believe you were guided to this site for help and that it was not an accident.

I am sorry to hear about your pain. I can empathise because I had sciatica and spd in some of my pregnancies.

If I were you, I would see an osteopath or chiropractor about your condition. You might even be able to be referred to one who is available on the NHS by your GP or hospital but if not, then go private if you can.

Other treatments that may work alongside this would be acupuncture, acupressure, aromatherapy or reflexology. Reiki might be good for a relief from the pain too.

Hope you get the help you need, and you feel better soon!!

Lots of love xxxx
 
Also, if you go to the home page of this website, and click on the button that says directory, you can then choose Osteopathy or Chiropractic from the drop down menu to find a suitable therapist in your area. If there is no-one in your area and you cant get anyone by referral from your GP, then try doing a search on google or yahoo search page for a therapist in your area. xxx
 
I just had another look on the directory and Cranio-Sacral Therapy might help too xxx
 
I had really bad sciatica when I was carrying my first son. The result of which it returns every now and then. Generally it comes on if I do a lot of twisting to the right, which tends to happen in part of my job. The worst time was when I had pain transference, it transfered to the front of my thigh and my leg dragged. In fact I thought it was something unrelated so went to my doc. I have also been in the position where it has come on so unexpectedly that I was nearly on my knees getting out of the car. I was recently given a set of exercises by a concerened customer, who is a consultant. They do help but in general I try and avoid where possible twisting to the right. I do reiki whenever I can and that does help with the pain. Hopefully you will find a treatment that is right for you. As each person tends to have a different reason for sciatica it's hard to generalise with treatment.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. I have today woken up and have called my physio and pain consultant and i have told them how much pain i'm in. I'm having another epidural on Thursday at 1pm. I just cannot cope with the pain and it's bringing me down. I'll let you all know how i'm doing with an update.. thanks again for the advice and help you have all shown..
Regards
Pete
 
http://www.chiropractic-uk.co.uk/default.aspx?m=1&mi=1
best (IMO) site to find a chiropractor
http://www.osteopathy.org/ZMENNK2BAB
to find an osteopath

Go see one or the other, take your MRI scan with you if you can, consultant's report if that's all you can get hold of.
Both Chiro.s and Osteo.s should be able to deal with disc bulge and radiculopathy, though I'm concerned by symptoms in the right arm; something's not right there (probably 2 problems, though that's just an educated guess at this stage).

Good luck with it
 
Hello all. Have had the 2nd Epidural and although it was similar to the 1st the consultant only put it in the L5 disc this time. I have to say it's a marked improvement on it's condition before. Whilst still getting pain it's more managable with Co-Codamol and it never felt like this after the 1st epidural 6 weeks ago. Could this be as a result of the 1st one reacting with the 2nd epidural or would the 1st epidural have expired so to speak. My return to work is at 50% at the moment and i'm next seeing my Consultant/Physio next week.

Regards

Pete
 
Oh I am glad you are feeling a bit better! I dont know anything about epidurals but maybe someone else on here would. Have you thought about asking your doctor if you could maybe get acupuncture on the NHS?
 
BIA i came across an old school DR who called himself an Neural Orthopeadic Specialist who said through his yrs of working with back problems he had found it very common for a disk to go in the lower back and neck at the same time. he called in 2 and 2 for some reason

any thoughts on this or was he just full of B/S? can't find any refernces of his on the net anywhere although he claimed to of worked closely with Dr James Cyiax who was the "founder" of orthopeadic medicine
 
I've not come across anyone yet where I would even consider that as an option. It certainly can, but I wouldn't call it frequent by any stretch of the imagination.
If you've got Neuro SSx in both upper and lower body, you start looking towards the spinal chord/brainstem/brain 1st up.

If it's double crush, then that's not all that uncommon. Basically it states that when you injure a nerve, you're more likely to then receive another nerve injury (usually the same nerve, but not always). I don't think I'm explaining it very well, but I'm sure you get the gist.
 
Hi
I had a similar problem to you after the birth of my first child (some 30yrs ago) and it caused my leg to give way sometimes. I went to a chiro who used a wooden hammer and mallet - it did work! But I wouldn't recommend it nowadays. It does come back sometimes when I twist or aggrevate it in some way and a while a go it felt as though my back was seizing up and I was becoming stiff in that area. I started doing Yoga but it was a special kind of deep stretching yoga called Yin and that has worked wonders for me because it opens up the spine (a little bit like traction I suppose)but I can say that I have never looked back and the yoga is very relaxing and closing down. you relax into the posture and when you are first doing them you think it is going to be really painful in the morning but because you are relaxed, you feel like a rag doll at the end of the session but there are no bad effect the next day as there would be with normal Yoga.
I don't know if there is a Yin class near to you - there are not many around
 
My sciatica has ranged from just annoying to crippling and I have suffered with it for nearly 5 months. Mine is due to a prolapsed disc.

My osteopath says there is no alternative but to have the disc removed - and no alternative treatments will work despite what anyone says.

I have tried simply everything to help with the pain - and the combination that enables me to get up in the morning and at least function is simply this: 2 x Anadin Extra and 2 x Nurofen Plus, 2 or 3 times a day. Added to this I try to lie down on a hard floor with legs bent (knees to the ceiling) and a book under my head for up to an hour every day (from Alexander Technique).

This may work for you and I hope it helps.
 
Before you go the route of surgery, I would advise getting an MRI to get a better picture of what's going on in the back. Disc removal doesn't always clear up the problem. In some cases, such as my brother (who ruptured a disc) they remove the ejected material and seal the disc.
 
Hi Pete

I experienced sciatica for six months. I was flat out so i know how it feels. I had degenerate discs, sciatica, hyper mobility, Sherman's disease, repetitive injury. I not only recovered using Bioenergy Healing but i can now do full contact martial arts, rock climbing and running!

In hindsight i realised that these weren't just physical ailments.

When you experience pain in the body it is important to understand its origin.

Consider the following:- Each region of the brain is linked to a different part of the body via the neurological system. When you experience emotional trauma it is stored in a specific region of the brain. That region of the brain is connected to in your case the sciatic nerve/leg. For the duration that the emotional trauma is stored in your brain may it be on a conscious or sub-conscious level it causes a breakdown in communication and dis-order along the whole pathway from the brain to this area of the symptom. Then the loop kicks in because the pain and frustrations cause further psychological and emotional trauma in another part of the brain that connects to another physical part of the body and so on.

It is possible to break the loop as i did and most importantly without having to address it on a cognitive level.

I hope you are getting the picture.

Injections and surgery may need to be an option for some people but you should satisfy yourself that you have tried the least invasive options in the first place.



Best wishes


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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  31. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Yoga Beauty Lucy, Strong RMT Girl Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND LUCY๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  32. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Jennifer, Coco and Emily will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  33. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday May 30, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๏ธ, Carla ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿ˜ and Vicky ๐Ÿ‘. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  34. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  35. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  36. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  37. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  38. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  39. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  40. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  44. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  45. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
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