BJ without condom safe or not?

That depends. Seeing your other topic "Did you ever try a LB": do you want to give or get a BJ?
 
Its all relative, many may think the risk vs. reward is reasonable enough to not worry much about it, however you can catch an STD through oral sex. The transmission rate is quite low. Some girls will not give a bbbj for fear of catching something, so if this is your cup of tea you may want to make that clear.
 
A study of gay men in London and San Fransisco puts the rate of oral sex transmission at around 7%. It should be noted that this study has been disputed. However there is a theoretical risk of transmission. Just remember that the girls in Patong are sleeping with hundreds of guys a year, and there is HIV knocking around. Girls with the virus are likely to have a high viral load, increasing the minute chance of tranmission. You are more likely to catch other STDs such as Chlamydya.
On my last visit i had many bj's without condoms and my tests where all clear, however when i return i will be a little more cautious as i am now aware of the risk, albeit a small one.
 
The risk is increased if there are any open sores or cuts/wounds on you or in the girl's mouth - this can be taken to include those inflicted whenever teeth are brushed. If you are the girl's umpteenth BBBJ of the day (MP girls especially) and she's been brushing after each one... :omg:

K.
 
could you quote that study ???

As the rate of vaginal sex transmission can be down as low as 0.02 % and oral sex is considered much safer it seems unusual..

Also being a pitcher or a catcher would have a big impact.. I dont intend on giving any BBBJ's !!!
 
A recent study of gay men practicing only oral sex revealed a seven percent transmission rate over a several year period. An earlier study in San Francisco revealed a transmission rate of less than one percent per year in gay men practicing only oral sex.


I think that might clear up why it was so high.
 
Any % has nothing to do with it!

Nothing is worth the risk! Period! :aan:
 
What a ridiculous thing to say. ANYTHING you do in life has a 'perceneforum.xxxe' risk. Are you saying you never drive a car? Take a plane? Everything you do in life is just playing the odds. In fact here in the UK as a white hetrosexual male in my thirties, I have a far higher probability of getting killed or seriously injured in my car than I have of being infected by HIV. (There are about 3000 HIV infections a year here, but half are gay men and a third are Africans arriving through immigration - whereas there are 3300 road deaths and about 10 times that number of injuries).

The point I'm making is that everything you do involves an element of risk, but just like driving a car you can do things to minimise that risk, but that doesn't mean never going for a drive!
 
I think Tintin's point is that even if the risk is 1 in a million, he doesn't think its worth the risk. That's his personal opinion. If we are talking about reducing risk to a level thats as low as reasonably possible, then surely wearing a condom makes sense, rather than playing the odds!
 
'As low as possible' is not doing it all! That's my point, his statement is silly because there's always an element of risk in anything you do.
 
Life is risk.. What you gonna do, wrap yourself in cotton wool and stay living in agrophobia..

For the less paranoid out there blowjob constitute a risk so minor that you can let a crack ***** blow you with relative safety..

If 0.02% (1/5000) vaginal transmission is risky and oral is many multiples safer I will take those 1/1,000,000 chances.. When I get to a million (different person) blowjobs (all from HIV infected persons) let me know..
 
Oh I totally agree that I have more change to get killed in a car! Tsunami-victims were on the wrong place at the wrong time!

The difference is that I need the car in this society, public transport su*ks over here.

But if I am doing a bg, the risk is allready higher then with some girls.

If I have almost 0 % by wearing the hat, I prefer to leave it on! I cannot leave out that bad luck can catch on me, but I can leave at least the change out, of getting aids, if I don't want to...

And to pass the dissease to anybody else, if I would have been caught!

In some countries a large sized of the population has been washed away, only because nobody is wearing the hat!
 
just enjoy life.
do what you like,lifes to short to worry to much.
Tin Tin why say about aids you have to get HIV before aids anyway.
you can have hiv years before aids.
just look at the government minister who has HIV for 16 years and still no Aids and he looks healthy so less of the doom and gloom.

Baz
 
sorry, but that is just ridiculous! The fact you can compare the tidal wave to not wearing a condom is just crass. I have given you the benefit of the doubt many times but this time you have just gone too far. If you think that 226,000 Indonesians were lilled by the earthquake and tsunami that followed because they weren't wearing condoms, especially as many of them were women and children then you are one sick mutha.
Tarzan has a point YOU atre now on my ignore list!
 
Coolhand,
I think its tintins poor command of English that is the problem. Giving him the benefit of doubt,I would say he means that many people have died (as in washed away,wiped out) as a result of not wearing a condom (contracted HIV/Aids) Think about it, his English is not too good
 
Tin Tin said.
*In some countries a large sized of the population has been washed away, only because nobody is wearing the hat!

I dont think his English is a problem here at all. It is how you interpret his statement. He said in some countries with no specific reference to Indonesia, Thailand or Sri Lanka. I think the poor English comes from those who misinterpreted it.

Your chance of catching an STD from a blow job as minimal as they might be are still a risk. The only bad thing about wearing a hat while getting a blow job is that it takes away from the money shot. :blah:

May all your blow job end with a pop! :ytounge:
 
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    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLayra Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปgive you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 3 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body , young cute Sophia slime 30โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Gorgeous Busty Boobs Taiwan๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ Girl Angel working with Sexy Exotic Filipina๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญGirl Molly & Sweet Shy Pretty Girl Kitty๐Ÿ˜ป and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Kiki and Bella. They are both short, young, pretty, with lovely smiles and good massage.
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage

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