BJ without condom safe or not?

That depends. Seeing your other topic "Did you ever try a LB": do you want to give or get a BJ?
 
Its all relative, many may think the risk vs. reward is reasonable enough to not worry much about it, however you can catch an STD through oral sex. The transmission rate is quite low. Some girls will not give a bbbj for fear of catching something, so if this is your cup of tea you may want to make that clear.
 
A study of gay men in London and San Fransisco puts the rate of oral sex transmission at around 7%. It should be noted that this study has been disputed. However there is a theoretical risk of transmission. Just remember that the girls in Patong are sleeping with hundreds of guys a year, and there is HIV knocking around. Girls with the virus are likely to have a high viral load, increasing the minute chance of tranmission. You are more likely to catch other STDs such as Chlamydya.
On my last visit i had many bj's without condoms and my tests where all clear, however when i return i will be a little more cautious as i am now aware of the risk, albeit a small one.
 
The risk is increased if there are any open sores or cuts/wounds on you or in the girl's mouth - this can be taken to include those inflicted whenever teeth are brushed. If you are the girl's umpteenth BBBJ of the day (MP girls especially) and she's been brushing after each one... :omg:

K.
 
could you quote that study ???

As the rate of vaginal sex transmission can be down as low as 0.02 % and oral sex is considered much safer it seems unusual..

Also being a pitcher or a catcher would have a big impact.. I dont intend on giving any BBBJ's !!!
 
A recent study of gay men practicing only oral sex revealed a seven percent transmission rate over a several year period. An earlier study in San Francisco revealed a transmission rate of less than one percent per year in gay men practicing only oral sex.


I think that might clear up why it was so high.
 
Any % has nothing to do with it!

Nothing is worth the risk! Period! :aan:
 
What a ridiculous thing to say. ANYTHING you do in life has a 'perceneforum.xxxe' risk. Are you saying you never drive a car? Take a plane? Everything you do in life is just playing the odds. In fact here in the UK as a white hetrosexual male in my thirties, I have a far higher probability of getting killed or seriously injured in my car than I have of being infected by HIV. (There are about 3000 HIV infections a year here, but half are gay men and a third are Africans arriving through immigration - whereas there are 3300 road deaths and about 10 times that number of injuries).

The point I'm making is that everything you do involves an element of risk, but just like driving a car you can do things to minimise that risk, but that doesn't mean never going for a drive!
 
I think Tintin's point is that even if the risk is 1 in a million, he doesn't think its worth the risk. That's his personal opinion. If we are talking about reducing risk to a level thats as low as reasonably possible, then surely wearing a condom makes sense, rather than playing the odds!
 
'As low as possible' is not doing it all! That's my point, his statement is silly because there's always an element of risk in anything you do.
 
Life is risk.. What you gonna do, wrap yourself in cotton wool and stay living in agrophobia..

For the less paranoid out there blowjob constitute a risk so minor that you can let a crack ***** blow you with relative safety..

If 0.02% (1/5000) vaginal transmission is risky and oral is many multiples safer I will take those 1/1,000,000 chances.. When I get to a million (different person) blowjobs (all from HIV infected persons) let me know..
 
Oh I totally agree that I have more change to get killed in a car! Tsunami-victims were on the wrong place at the wrong time!

The difference is that I need the car in this society, public transport su*ks over here.

But if I am doing a bg, the risk is allready higher then with some girls.

If I have almost 0 % by wearing the hat, I prefer to leave it on! I cannot leave out that bad luck can catch on me, but I can leave at least the change out, of getting aids, if I don't want to...

And to pass the dissease to anybody else, if I would have been caught!

In some countries a large sized of the population has been washed away, only because nobody is wearing the hat!
 
just enjoy life.
do what you like,lifes to short to worry to much.
Tin Tin why say about aids you have to get HIV before aids anyway.
you can have hiv years before aids.
just look at the government minister who has HIV for 16 years and still no Aids and he looks healthy so less of the doom and gloom.

Baz
 
sorry, but that is just ridiculous! The fact you can compare the tidal wave to not wearing a condom is just crass. I have given you the benefit of the doubt many times but this time you have just gone too far. If you think that 226,000 Indonesians were lilled by the earthquake and tsunami that followed because they weren't wearing condoms, especially as many of them were women and children then you are one sick mutha.
Tarzan has a point YOU atre now on my ignore list!
 
Coolhand,
I think its tintins poor command of English that is the problem. Giving him the benefit of doubt,I would say he means that many people have died (as in washed away,wiped out) as a result of not wearing a condom (contracted HIV/Aids) Think about it, his English is not too good
 
Tin Tin said.
*In some countries a large sized of the population has been washed away, only because nobody is wearing the hat!

I dont think his English is a problem here at all. It is how you interpret his statement. He said in some countries with no specific reference to Indonesia, Thailand or Sri Lanka. I think the poor English comes from those who misinterpreted it.

Your chance of catching an STD from a blow job as minimal as they might be are still a risk. The only bad thing about wearing a hat while getting a blow job is that it takes away from the money shot. :blah:

May all your blow job end with a pop! :ytounge:
 
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    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beaut
  37. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today, Sophie and Kiki, they are young, pretty and cute and the massage was very professional.
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. pickyreviewerr:
    BLACKPINK WELLNESS CENTER - Lisa, Apple, Tiffany. CALL OR TEXT 647-395-3188 to book
  40. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available open long weekend ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily, amazing touch, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  45. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE (12pm-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim.
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, young pretty popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA, LINDA, LUNA, SHAYLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin
  48. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 15 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, MALIYA, JANVI, MONIKA, BELA, MONICA, MEGAN, JAZMINE, PREETI, PREET ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  49. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    TOP NOTCH WELLNESSโ€‹
    SUNNY , GABBY , LARISSA , KIKI , MICHELLE AND VANNA AT TOP NOTCH WELLNESS. ALL SUPERSTARS CALL OR TEXT 437-522-9961 TO BOOK
  50. pickyreviewerr:
    BLACKPINK WELLNESS CENTER - Lisa, Apple, Tiffany. CALL OR TEXT 647-395-3188 to book

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