BJ without condom safe or not?

That depends. Seeing your other topic "Did you ever try a LB": do you want to give or get a BJ?
 
Its all relative, many may think the risk vs. reward is reasonable enough to not worry much about it, however you can catch an STD through oral sex. The transmission rate is quite low. Some girls will not give a bbbj for fear of catching something, so if this is your cup of tea you may want to make that clear.
 
A study of gay men in London and San Fransisco puts the rate of oral sex transmission at around 7%. It should be noted that this study has been disputed. However there is a theoretical risk of transmission. Just remember that the girls in Patong are sleeping with hundreds of guys a year, and there is HIV knocking around. Girls with the virus are likely to have a high viral load, increasing the minute chance of tranmission. You are more likely to catch other STDs such as Chlamydya.
On my last visit i had many bj's without condoms and my tests where all clear, however when i return i will be a little more cautious as i am now aware of the risk, albeit a small one.
 
The risk is increased if there are any open sores or cuts/wounds on you or in the girl's mouth - this can be taken to include those inflicted whenever teeth are brushed. If you are the girl's umpteenth BBBJ of the day (MP girls especially) and she's been brushing after each one... :omg:

K.
 
could you quote that study ???

As the rate of vaginal sex transmission can be down as low as 0.02 % and oral sex is considered much safer it seems unusual..

Also being a pitcher or a catcher would have a big impact.. I dont intend on giving any BBBJ's !!!
 
A recent study of gay men practicing only oral sex revealed a seven percent transmission rate over a several year period. An earlier study in San Francisco revealed a transmission rate of less than one percent per year in gay men practicing only oral sex.


I think that might clear up why it was so high.
 
Any % has nothing to do with it!

Nothing is worth the risk! Period! :aan:
 
What a ridiculous thing to say. ANYTHING you do in life has a 'perceneforum.xxxe' risk. Are you saying you never drive a car? Take a plane? Everything you do in life is just playing the odds. In fact here in the UK as a white hetrosexual male in my thirties, I have a far higher probability of getting killed or seriously injured in my car than I have of being infected by HIV. (There are about 3000 HIV infections a year here, but half are gay men and a third are Africans arriving through immigration - whereas there are 3300 road deaths and about 10 times that number of injuries).

The point I'm making is that everything you do involves an element of risk, but just like driving a car you can do things to minimise that risk, but that doesn't mean never going for a drive!
 
I think Tintin's point is that even if the risk is 1 in a million, he doesn't think its worth the risk. That's his personal opinion. If we are talking about reducing risk to a level thats as low as reasonably possible, then surely wearing a condom makes sense, rather than playing the odds!
 
'As low as possible' is not doing it all! That's my point, his statement is silly because there's always an element of risk in anything you do.
 
Life is risk.. What you gonna do, wrap yourself in cotton wool and stay living in agrophobia..

For the less paranoid out there blowjob constitute a risk so minor that you can let a crack ***** blow you with relative safety..

If 0.02% (1/5000) vaginal transmission is risky and oral is many multiples safer I will take those 1/1,000,000 chances.. When I get to a million (different person) blowjobs (all from HIV infected persons) let me know..
 
Oh I totally agree that I have more change to get killed in a car! Tsunami-victims were on the wrong place at the wrong time!

The difference is that I need the car in this society, public transport su*ks over here.

But if I am doing a bg, the risk is allready higher then with some girls.

If I have almost 0 % by wearing the hat, I prefer to leave it on! I cannot leave out that bad luck can catch on me, but I can leave at least the change out, of getting aids, if I don't want to...

And to pass the dissease to anybody else, if I would have been caught!

In some countries a large sized of the population has been washed away, only because nobody is wearing the hat!
 
just enjoy life.
do what you like,lifes to short to worry to much.
Tin Tin why say about aids you have to get HIV before aids anyway.
you can have hiv years before aids.
just look at the government minister who has HIV for 16 years and still no Aids and he looks healthy so less of the doom and gloom.

Baz
 
sorry, but that is just ridiculous! The fact you can compare the tidal wave to not wearing a condom is just crass. I have given you the benefit of the doubt many times but this time you have just gone too far. If you think that 226,000 Indonesians were lilled by the earthquake and tsunami that followed because they weren't wearing condoms, especially as many of them were women and children then you are one sick mutha.
Tarzan has a point YOU atre now on my ignore list!
 
Coolhand,
I think its tintins poor command of English that is the problem. Giving him the benefit of doubt,I would say he means that many people have died (as in washed away,wiped out) as a result of not wearing a condom (contracted HIV/Aids) Think about it, his English is not too good
 
Tin Tin said.
*In some countries a large sized of the population has been washed away, only because nobody is wearing the hat!

I dont think his English is a problem here at all. It is how you interpret his statement. He said in some countries with no specific reference to Indonesia, Thailand or Sri Lanka. I think the poor English comes from those who misinterpreted it.

Your chance of catching an STD from a blow job as minimal as they might be are still a risk. The only bad thing about wearing a hat while getting a blow job is that it takes away from the money shot. :blah:

May all your blow job end with a pop! :ytounge:
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  40. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.on Thursday ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful Jessica come back,deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…sunny very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair young beautiful Lucy,friendly smile,back walk,strong to relax oil amazing ending๏ผŒrelief your stress,must try๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜
  41. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Yuki 24, Korean Slim , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JOJO (12pm-9pm): is a busty JAPANESE girl, magnificent DD Cup boobs, short, petite small body, pretty face AV Star, bbbj cim cof rim, special services available. KITTY (12pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly
  44. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beaut
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  46. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Taiwanese Victoria slime open mind and young flirty Tina with sexy body open mind, sexy Coco and Cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York

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